According to Herr Horst's site there is a Novak and a Novak ll - Our database has only Novak and it looks like the photos there are actually Novak ll (hopefully! No more NOID's please!) Mine, which I got from SMG, is doing interesting stripey things.

Patty, it does look like we have two different Novak types in our database entry.

I got mine from SMG in 2013 and it is definitely NOT the same plant.

And I'm getting tired of buying named plants that turn out to be NOIDS too.

Chris,

I hope you did not have to pay extra for the name?
I'd actually not care if I was in your place - it is still a beautiful and prolific semp.
I guess you would have bought it if you didn't know the name?!

No Michael, didn't pay any extra! But not sure if I would have bought it anyway....

I would have!

Chris I do think yours and Patty's look the same just different times of year? Or is your photo current??

My picture was from last June.

Given that you both got your clones from the same source, I think it is likely the same cultivar (my humble opinion)

But look at Novak on Horst site - not these I think. They might be Novak ll

Patty your 3rd photo in the database does look like the one on Sempervivumliste
Lynn - or Patty, I am unable to locate the database entry for Novak II either here or on sempervivum liste. How do I search for it??

Sempervivum-Liste doesn't have 'Novak ll' listed. And we don't have 'Novak ll' in the ATP database.
One of the problems is that we can't find any photos of this one during the months of March & April. I hate to make a decision just yet. I sent a message to Trixi (Zaubergarten) to see if she will take a new photo of hers so we have something to compare to.

Now I'm curious, where did they both come from? I saw the one says hybridized by Andre Smits in 1996 but what about the other one?
I like trying to figure all of this out, I've always liked problem solving!
Thanks again Lynn for all you do!

Greg it is Horst's site that shows both. http://www.semperhorst.de/Dieh...

Oh yes that is what Patty said I just got it mixed with semplist...Thanks Lynn and yes personal opinion is that SMG must have the Novak II looks just like the pictures showing...what a pretty plant!!

Did you look at the pictures of just Novak. They are all so different.

Yes, they do. The top right photo is from Fernwood. I'll see if they have more.