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Apr 8, 2016 7:04 AM CST
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Name: Tori
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I received several twigs from the Arbor Day Foundation last year and they are sprouting leaves this year. If you're familiar with them, for a small donation, they send you ten trees with "trunks" painted different colors to identify them. I have three that are painted white which means they are supposed to be Red Buds. Well, I may not know much about plants/trees/shrubs, but I do know ONE thing ... and that is what a Red Bud leaf looks like. nodding Out of the three "white" trees, only one is a Red Bud. The photos below show what the leaves on the other two look like. Does anyone recognize what type of tree or bush these will be? Confused

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Apr 8, 2016 10:09 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
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It looks like you got a couple little elm trees. I think I'd rather have the Redbuds.

I once got trees from Arbor Day but one grew up to be a Lilac.

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Apr 8, 2016 10:47 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Stems and leaves sure remind me of Ulmus (Elm) too. Not sure if it is one of these but I found two Elms listed at the Arbor Day Foundation Website: http://www.arborday.org/trees/...

Texas Cedar Elm (Ulmus crassifolia)
Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia)

My neighbor has a huge Chinese Elm in his backyard and the seedlings are constantly popping up all over my yard and in my containers, it's considered an invasive in some areas: http://www.na.fs.fed.us/fhp/in...
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Apr 8, 2016 11:57 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Perhaps the young trees look different, but I have both Chinese and Cedar elms and their leaves are smaller and darker than those.

My first thought was birch...?
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Apr 8, 2016 12:14 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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@porkpal, you could be right. Those pale green leaves could very well be a variety of Birch rather than Elm! Leaves of young elms don't appear as pubescent/soft or as light in color as those in GardenGoobers photos.

The Arbor Day Foundation lists two Birch trees:
River Birch (Betula nigra)
Paper Birch (Betula papyrifera)

For comparison, here are leaf photos of River Birch, B. nigra:
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Apr 8, 2016 2:18 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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I agree. It may well be a birch. The other identifying give away is that elm leaves are lopsided. I read this post earlier but didn't have time to respond. After thinking about it, I suspect it is a River Birch.

If so... Hurray! They are awesome trees.
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Apr 8, 2016 2:44 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I agree - River Birch.
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Apr 8, 2016 4:33 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Unless River Birch leaves are a different shape when young, I doubt it is that.

http://www.uniprot.org/taxonom...

http://classes.hortla.wsu.edu/...

http://www.fcps.edu/islandcree...

The closest I have found is Planera aquatica, I can't see any hairs on the leaves though. The leaves of the plant in question look to be quite hairy on the upper surface.

http://www.carolinanature.com/...

Twig: Slender, slightly zigzag, initially hairy but becoming glabrous, reddish to gray-brown, lateral buds short, reddish brown, blunt tipped.


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Apr 16, 2016 1:54 AM CST
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Name: Tori
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Thanks everyone. A Lilac or Birch would have been much better as I have acres of Elms. Glare So much for my Redbuds and the Arbor Day Foundation. Reckon it's off to the nursery to buy me some Redbuds!! Rolling my eyes.

Thanks a bunch yall!! Greatly appreciate it.
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