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Apr 21, 2016 3:17 PM CST
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Thanks so much for checking into this Greg @gg5! Glad that one is solved!
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Apr 21, 2016 6:50 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Me too!! ATP (Garden.org) has a reputation with him and probably Young's also, for wanting things labelled correctly! So am glad he was responsive! I tip my hat to you.
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Apr 25, 2016 4:51 PM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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I received an order from SMG today! Top Notch as always. Thanks, Don! I tip my hat to you.
In that order was "Zelda".
I already have "Proud Zelda", purchased from Mt. Crest last summer.
This plant currently looks very different from P.Z.
I'm going to monitor both, I even planted them next to each other. The new plant might look vastly different after it acclimates to this area. But now they look nothing alike.
I'll post a few images tomorrow.
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Apr 25, 2016 6:07 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Great way to experiment and see what the differences might be Terri.
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Apr 25, 2016 6:24 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Terri yes please do post photos. I feel like Proud Zelda is distinct in its shape and that coloration I tip my hat to you.
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Apr 26, 2016 2:23 AM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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I will post the photos.
I know it may take a bit for this girl to settle in, so I think I should photograph at least weekly to monitor the changes.
Do you think weekly photos is frequent enough?
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Apr 26, 2016 8:37 AM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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Waiting for a break in the rain to photograph.

Thunder and lightning, very, very frightning......C'mon you know you want to sing now!
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Apr 26, 2016 9:14 AM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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Here are the images:

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"Zelda" bottom, "Proud Zelda" above.

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"Zelda"

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"Proud Zelda"

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"Zelda"

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"Proud Zelda"

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"Zelda" bottom, "Proud Zelda" above.
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Apr 26, 2016 11:22 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Gee, Proud Zelda looks beautiful already! Zelda looks like it was grown either under different conditions or somewhere else in the nursery...it needs to do catch-up.
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Apr 26, 2016 11:44 AM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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Spot on. She just traveled from the PNW to live here in WV with me. Lovey dubby
PZ has been here since last summer.
I plan on photographing this new plant through her changes.
Can't wait to see what she does! Thumbs up
I would rather have her be PZ than another noid!
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Apr 26, 2016 11:59 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Terri if it turns out different from your PZ, it will then be Zelda and we can let Don know...But to me they look similar enough to probably be the same plant! Thumbs up
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Apr 26, 2016 12:13 PM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
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Groovy either way! Hurray!
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Apr 26, 2016 12:44 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thanks for starting/adding to this thread Chris and Terri, as coincidently, I was overhauling my small collection and see that I have a problem:
After the big house move I had two pots that I thought to be Proud Zelda (actually offsets of long gone mother hen). I had labeled them both PZ but wasn't sure why they didn't look alike so I went and got Proud Zelda from Lynn (the labeled pot) and put them together to see if they even remotely matched. I know one is bigger than the verified and other suspect but I do remember the offsets being of different sizes before the big move...What do you think?

The suspects:
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Closer look at verified PZ and suspect #1
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Closer look at verified PZ and suspect #2
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Apr 26, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I think suspect #1 could be PZ, but I have my doubts about suspect #2. Hilarious!
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Apr 26, 2016 4:44 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I agree with Chris. But it could be because of lack of sun.
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Apr 26, 2016 5:32 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thanks ladies...I think I will keep them close together to monitor them too.
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Apr 26, 2016 7:59 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I agree with Lynn that it could be lack of light, but once they are growing in same location, they should match up pretty quickly!
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May 3, 2016 4:19 PM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
Terristanley.blogspot.com
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Updated photos.
I printed an ID for Zelda. It should help as I document any changes.

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May 3, 2016 8:17 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Keep us posted Terri.
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May 4, 2016 1:41 AM CST
Name: Terri Stanley
Doddridge Co. WV (Zone 6a)
Terristanley.blogspot.com
Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Plant and/or Seed Trader Sempervivums Sedums Plumerias
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I will Lynn.
I think it'll be interesting to see the changes as she acclimates.
I can see the slight changes already.
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