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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 18, 2011 7:02 AM CST

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For discussing the propagation of plants using methods other than seeds.
Name: BlueFox
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BlueFox
Jan 23, 2012 2:01 PM CST
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As a Certified Horticulturist, I've been taking cuttings off pretty much anything that will stand still long enough for me to snip a bit off.

When I first took my training in 1989, I worked for a wholesale nursery in Langley B.C. for the summer, and then went back after the course was finished.

Some of the responsibilities of the Head Propagator (me!) were a bit humdrum, and there was a lot of record keeping to do. I had to fill the schedule and keep tabs on all the plants that were required (making sure I did enough extra to end up with the right number), rooting them, hardening them off, and moving them at the right time to an outdoor bed to finish growing until they were big enough to pot on.

I had a lot of fun learning how to use a mist system, with bottom heat in the benches.

That was a steep learning curve, to get the right amount of mist, at the right timing so that the leaf surface got a small amount of moisture, but no droplets so it wouldn't start rotting.

The bottom heat was supplied by water from a boiler that was circulated in rubber tubes that looped around the benches, and there were miles of the stuff. If air got in the tubes, it would stop the circulation, so I would have to 'bleed' the lines, by leaving a tap open.

In the interim I've worked at a lot of other places, but that was where I got my start, both with the deciduous cuttings of prairie hardy roses, spirea, potentilla and many other shrubs, evergreens like Rhododendrons, Arctostaphylos uva ursi (the nursery sold that by the ton!) and in the winter I took semi ripe cuttings of Junipers and other conifers.

I also did a tiny bit of grafting, with some success, but I couldn't tell you now what was the trick. I did some Acer palmatum varieties that were grafted onto plain old Japanese maple seedlings, and played with some of the harder to root things like some of the Junipers, mostly scopulorum.

The thought was that if they were grafted onto an easy to root form of Juniper, then they would be stuck just like a regular cutting but deep enough that the nurse cutting would root and give the top part enough time to get going that we might figure out a way around that particular difficulty.

The owner of the nursery was always looking for innovative ideas and ways to root difficult plants to produce them more quickly and economically. I devised a system of rooting Daphne cneorum very successfully; if I tell you, I'll have to kill you, as it's a very secret technique. Espionage is rampant in the nursery industry - I'll bet you didn't know that!

Now I just concentrate on hardy succulents like Sedum, Sempervivum, Jovibarba, Orostachys and Rosularia. They don't require as much fiddling with getting the exact right temperature and conditions; in fact, many of them root without soil at all!

Name: doglover
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doglover
Feb 28, 2012 1:16 AM CST
Why is anyone reading this? Is there no interest and/or desire to learn? So tell me, can you take a leaf cutting from plants such as irs? What about Brunneras and dicentra spectabilis from stem cuttings? How about Mertensia virginicana (Virginia bluebells).
Name: Cinda
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gardengus
Feb 28, 2012 6:58 AM CST
There are a 157 views so someone is reading Smiling
Maybe just no one had a question.
I do not know the answer to your questions so I will have to leave to some one who does.
Keep believing ,hoping,and loving
all else is just existing.
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Feb 28, 2012 10:51 AM CST
Hi Everyone, forgive me for not stopping in sooner, but this is my time of year when I take some cuttings and do some repotting, etc. I have a little business I run from here on the Christmas Tree Farm in New Jersey. I sell starter plants on the internet. My website is
[url=www.JBsBirdsandMore.com]www.JBsBirdsandMore.com[/url] if you want to see some of the plants I try and grow.

I dabble with tropicals, mostly gardenias, jasmine but my favorite is any Holiday Cactus I can get my hands on because they take so little effort and that is about what I am having just now. Winter is not my favorite time of year since I am not a snowbird and I am now 83 years old. I do love my plants, and at this time I am taking cuttings and rooting the Dwarf Black Pussy Willows Salix Gracillistyla "Melanostachys". I adore these plants. They show beauty in every season.

I guess I neglected to ask any questions because I do not have the name of the nursery plants I am trying to propagate. I have several different holly bushes that are here on the farm that I would love to propagate. I did manage to do the one, which I think is an English Holly, but the others I am not having any luck. They take forever to root and I have tried almost every way I know how. I get so far and then the leaves fall off and they die. So, if anyone is a Holly Expert, please give me your thoughts. But, I can only send pictures, I have no names. Sorry.
Name: Mary Stella
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Oberon46
Mar 25, 2012 10:50 AM CST
I was glad to find this forum. I have propagated dahlias as an experiment and was really thrilled. It is easy to do. I have a book on propagating that addresses about every kind of plant and tree. Neve tried to propagate wood but would like to try.
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Mar 27, 2012 1:51 PM CST
Woofie, I don't know about osteopernums specifically, but most things seem to root best in spring when active growth begins.

Karen
Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 27, 2012 3:20 PM CST
That was my thought, but the darn things have blooms on just about every stem!
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Mar 27, 2012 3:27 PM CST
Cut off the flower, strip a nodes or two, and stick them in soil. Put in a plastic bag and see what happens.

Karen
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Mar 29, 2012 8:31 AM CST
I would google the question and see what kind of an answer you get. Just for fun.
Name: Duane
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duane456
Mar 29, 2012 8:48 AM CST
Karen--- Thumbs up
Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 29, 2012 9:59 AM CST
Well, this is interesting. This website recommends Autumn as the best time to root cuttings, which is not what you'd guess. But since it also says you can do it any time, I think I'll try a few cuttings now (quick while the plant is still alive! Can't believe I haven't killed it yet! Hilarious! )
http://www.osteospermum.com/cuttings.htm
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 29, 2012 12:15 PM CST
FYI all: Trish split off my question about Osterspermum onto a separate thread, so there is now a nice shiny new thread on propagating Osterspermum.. Smiling
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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Mar 29, 2012 12:19 PM CST
It says
"As most Osteospermums can only be considered half hardy, it's always best to propagate new plants by taking cuttings each year. This is preferable to over-wintering large plants.

We normally take our 5cm stem tip cuttings in autumn, although they can be rooted at any time of year given the right conditions."

I'd interpret that as meaning rather than trying to dig up and overwinter a bunch of big plants, take cuttings in fall before the things croak. That's when I take coleus cuttings, too- in fall before the suckers turn to mush. Hilarious!

Karen
Name: Trish
Jacksonville, TX (Zone 8a)
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Trish
Mar 29, 2012 12:23 PM CST

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Karen- if you would be so kind as to repost the above post to the new thread here: The thread "Osteospermum" in Propagation forum I would be ever so grateful.

I made a pretty good mess, and woofie is trying to help me clean it up! *Blush*
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Mar 29, 2012 12:37 PM CST
Done. Smiling

But I'm shocked. I didn't think you made messes of things like that Trish. I, however, am great at it. Whistling

Karen
Name: Trish
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Trish
Mar 29, 2012 1:03 PM CST

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I think today has been one huge blunder for me! I would quit while I'm ahead, but I'm not ahead yet! Hilarious!

Thanks for helping!
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Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
Pippi21
May 6, 2012 5:21 AM CST
Dave, would it be possible to start a category about how one prepares for participating in a plant swap, how far ahead to prepare, what potting mixes are best to use for taking cuttings, and other helpful tips. I potted up a bunch of creeping phlox yesterday and I have a feeling they will not take hold and root in 2 weeks in time for the plant swap.

Building one's own cloner/bubbler would be another great category/subject to have on this website. Where people can post pictures of their system. Same for growing"Under lights" for beginners.
Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
May 6, 2012 5:35 AM CST
Pippi, people can write and submit tips, articles and the like on any subject any time by using the gardening ideas link. However, someone has to want to write and article, etc. And writing articles and tours and the like can be a lot of work.

In the meantime, ask questions in the appropriate forums and you're sure to get some answers if you start a new thread with that subject line
e.g. post a new thread/question about cuttings on the propagation forum or
" one about cloners on the propagation forum

post questions about growing under lights and ask folks to post pics of their light systems. There's an old thread to that effect somewhere in the seed forum.

Questions are often lost in existing long threads, but if you start a new thread with your questions you're sure to get good responses.

Karen

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