Lilies forum: Planted this year

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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
May 1, 2016 6:16 PM CST
L.a.lily eyeliner
African queen trumpet
Bonbini ot lily
Eremo la hybrid
Blushing angel trumpet
Citrine angel trumpet hybrid
Mister cas orienpet
Corsini orienpet
Anastacia orienpet
Tropic moon orienpet
Golden splendor trumpet
Copper angel trumpet
Black Beauty
Forever susan
Giraffe
Gloriana
Henyri
Karen north
Lilium leucanthum
Scheherazade
Summer palace
Holland beauty
Dunnyazade
Lady alice
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
May 1, 2016 6:42 PM CST
That's quite a list! Lilium bulbs aren't available just yet here in Australia, but they will be shortly and I'm hoping to order some more. Haven't quite decided which ones, but debating:

- Muscadet (Oriental Dwarf)
- Sissi (Oriental Dwarf)
- Navona (Asiatic)
- Mapira (L/A)
- Honesty (L/A)
- Leichtlinii (Species)

Edit: see revised listing in a later post.
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
May 1, 2016 7:01 PM CST
I thought about getting leichtlinii or tigrinum. But then i read something about them taking over their habitat. Kind of made me put them on hold until i find out more. Also heard they can be disease prone. Atleast the tigrinum species
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
May 1, 2016 7:03 PM CST
My understanding is that tigrinum (aka lancifolium) is not so much virus-prone as virus tolerant and so doesn't show symptoms, so I am also avoiding it.
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
May 1, 2016 7:16 PM CST
I'm not too worried about leichtlinii taking over its environment, since if I get it, it'll be going in a large pot anyway.
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
May 1, 2016 7:40 PM CST
Even better Josh. I thought about putting some dwarf asiatics or smaller orientals in some pots. Actually the wife has an old half whiskey barrel. Thought about putting a salmon star in the center, then let her plant her annuals. Lol
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
May 1, 2016 8:14 PM CST
Sounds like a good plan, Dave. I'm not familiar with the weather conditions where you live, but from what I've read elsewhere on this forum you might need to be careful regarding temperature (especially in winter) - pots (even a whiskey barrel) are more susceptible to temperature variations than a garden bed.

I've got some single-colour viola/pansy seeds to plant once I get the lilium bulbs in, so that should complement them nicely (white pansies for the colourful liliums, apricot violas for the white "Navona").
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
May 1, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Yeah. Couldn't keep them in pots outside even buried. But I'd probably just pull the bulbs out and put them in something smaller then put them in my garage for winter
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 8, 2016 3:52 AM CST
Well, I've placed some orders now and what I've ordered has ended up being a little different to my initial list. That said, I'm still waiting for Bulbs Direct to update their website to show what's available.

Ordered these from Golden Ray Gardens months ago (they were one of the first suppliers I found and had ordering open much earlier than anyone else at the time):

- Asiatic Baby Bulbs (expect these will flower in the second year)
- Dreamland
- Feedback (listed as a tetraploid; added this to my order when it was added to the website in May)
- Pink Giant (expect this will be "My Joe Ann", based on the picture, but will attempt to ascertain its true identity once it blooms)

More recently, ordered the following from Van Diemen Quality Bulbs:

- Sweet Surrender
- Mapira (L/A)
- Kaveri (O/A)
- Tiger Babies

Hoping to get the following from Bulbs Direct:

- Muscadet
- Sissi
- Reinesse (decided to try this one instead of "Navona" when I found out that it's a triploid and I wanted a white Asiatic for hybridising)


Also finally caved and bought L. martagon var. albiflorum and "Maroon King" from Tesselaar, which required some creative budgeting to fit in this month's finances (wanted two to try hybridising, since Tesselaar confirmed all their albiflorum is a single clone). Lake Nurseries have it listed too, but from what I've been told Tesselaar may be providing them with their lilium stock (and comparison of their websites shows that all the liliums offered by Lake Nurseries appear to be offered by Tesselaar at the same price).
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jun 8, 2016 4:39 AM CST
That's a good list Josh. Is that a spring order then for you guys?
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 8, 2016 4:58 AM CST
Most suppliers here in Australia make their catalogues available in May (late Autumn), with delivery into winter. I expect the orders from Van Diemen Quality Bulbs and Tesselaar to turn up in the next couple of weeks. No idea on the timeline for Golden Ray Gardens, though. Also I've noted a few places have the Asiatics ready to ship but not Orientals, with one stating that they won't be available until July. I suspect it might have had to do with the weather this year (being warm up till mid May) and the fact that the coldest period is typically around August.
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 11, 2016 1:04 AM CST
My Tesselaar order arrived yesterday (Friday), which was pretty quick, considering I'd only ordered them on Wednesday. I planted them today in a pot.

Maroon King:
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This bulb was smaller than L. martagon var. albiflorum (4cm across at its widest) and one scale appeared damaged. It did, however, have a big mass of roots attached (quite a few up to 20cm long), which I know is a good thing for martagons. Maybe this one will flower next summer?

L. martagon var albiflorum:
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This bulb looked large and healthy (5cm across at its widest). However, all its roots appear to have been cut only a few centimetres (or about an inch) below the bulb. I'm guessing this will be a no-show next summer given it's now a couple of weeks into winter and it'll need time to repair its root system. Sad I know that martagons don't always flower the first year after transplant, but this pretty much guarantees it, right?


Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jun 11, 2016 3:48 AM CST
>>>My Tesselaar order arrived yesterday (Friday), which was pretty quick, considering I'd only ordered them on Wednesday.
Wow, that's not "pretty" quick, that's amazingly quick! (got to give credit where credit is due...)

And yes! The roots are what counts (aside from general health). In fact I have dug some of my most vigorous martagon seedlings, expecting big bulbs, only to find a much smaller bulb with a massive root system.

That's a double whammy with the bigger bulb, but your winters are so warm that it could grow enough roots, so it might still come up. My concern is that your winters are not cold enough for martagons. It will be interesting to see what happens in the long run.

Martagon section species may skip a season above ground, even if not moved (if conditions aren't the best for them). But that doesn't mean the just sit there. Besides building a root system, their bulb size will likely increase, too.
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 11, 2016 4:03 AM CST
Thanks for the feedback, Rick. I guess time will tell what will happen. Given that a pot will cool quicker than the ground, I'm hoping it will be cold enough through winter for them. There would certainly be places around the state that would be cold enough, but Melbourne is a bit more temperate. I'll let you know what happens next summer.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jun 11, 2016 8:33 AM CST
Australis said: Given that a pot will cool quicker than the ground...


That's good theory, Joshua. And remember, NO sun in the winter and keep it on the dry side.
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 11, 2016 8:40 AM CST
Thanks, Rick. I've got the pot under cover to keep the rain off it. It won't receive any direct sun (it's in the garage and ours is open except for one wall), but it'll still get some light.
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Jun 13, 2016 4:27 AM CST
Good luck with your martagons, Joshua. I'm waiting for my first bulb order to arrive. Should be any day now!
Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jun 13, 2016 4:30 AM CST
Thanks, Della. What have you ordered this year?
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Jun 13, 2016 4:48 AM CST
At risk of fueling the addiction.... take a look here: http://www.gardenliliums.com.au/downloads

At the bottom of the page is the download link for Adrian's current catalogue, and it has some beautiful offerings. I've ordered 'Jennifer', the new trumpet on the cover Lovey dubby , Whiskey, Solution, Villa Blanca, Miyabi, Illusive....

And I expect to order more stuff from Tesselaars, Van Diemen Quality Bulbs, maybe a few other places. Some mixed bulbs from Tesselaars already on the way, even though every year I vow 'never again'. Hilarious!
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Region: Australia Bookworm Cat Lover Lilies Orchids Seed Starter
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Australis
Jun 13, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Don't worry, Della, I had already found Adrian's website some time ago and perused his previous years' catalogues. There's quite a few of his offerings I'd like, but many of them weren't in this year's catalogue, so I decided I would wait till next year.

There's always that tendency to add 'just one more', isn't there? Hilarious!

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