Plant ID forum: Climbing vine

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Name: Lisa Olson
Washington DC (Zone 7a)
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5601Lisa
Jun 1, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Is this vine is worth keeping? Thick stems, vigorous growth. No clue what it is.
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Jun 2, 2016 3:05 PM CST
It looks like it could be Milkweed Vine, Funastrum cynancoides. Break off a leaf and see if it bleeds a milky white sap, Smiling
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JRsbugs
Jun 2, 2016 4:44 PM CST
Did you put the wrong Latin name Josephine?

http://www.americansouthwest.net/plants/wildflowers/funastru...

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jun 2, 2016 4:51 PM CST
Cynanchum sp.

http://www.wikiwand.com/fr/Cynanchum

Cynanchum leave

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Cynanchum+laeve&source=lnm...
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jun 2, 2016 5:40 PM CST
Those leaves look a lot like Honey Vine (Cynanchum laeve)
http://www.discoverlife.org/20/q?search=Cynanchum+laeve
https://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/cylo1.htm
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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 2, 2016 5:50 PM CST
I don't have a guess for the plant BUT I'm guessing that Frostweed (Josephine) is talking about this plant: (Although, that link doesn't look right to me either.)

Climbing Milkweed Vine (Funastrum cynanchoides)
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Jun 2, 2016 9:33 PM CST
I have both Funastrum cynancoides and Cynanchum leave, the leaves are very similar but the flowers are very different.
So without seeing the flowers it is hard to tell, it may very well be Cynanchum leave, we shall see when it flowers. Smiling
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JRsbugs
Jun 3, 2016 5:42 AM CST
It seems there's two plants with similar flowers but very different leaves which are carrying the same name!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Funastrum+Cynanchoides&sou...

Funastrum cynanchoides on the Plant List is unresolved.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2815644

It is given as a synonym of Sarcostemma cynanchoides on Southwest Desert Flora.

http://southwestdesertflora.com/WebsiteFolders/All_Species/A...

Sarcostemma cynanchoides accepted on PL ..

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Sarcostemma+cyna...

Calphotos has it as Sarcostemma cynanchoides ..

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+000...

Also swbiodiversity ..

http://swbiodiversity.org/seinet/taxa/index.php?taxon=3829

On The CoL it's another of these which has it the opposite way around. Rolling my eyes.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ea62e0...

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/Sarcostemm...

The CoL source is World Plants, I clicked to the site but the site gives a few specific links..

Organization: Individual custodian in cooperation with the Botanical Garden of the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, Karlsruhe, Germany


http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/database/id/141

http://worldplants.webarchiv.kit.edu/

It seems the CoL is mainly concerned with, so far that I have found, institutions based in Austria and Germany and that is evident even on the worldplants Links ..

http://worldplants.webarchiv.kit.edu/links.html

CoL reference:

Author: , Schltr.
Year: 1914
Title: – Source: In: Fedde, Repert. 13: 284

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/reference/species...

PL reference on IPNI:

nol: (A) made on 2016-01-31 02:56:48.0

http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=B68...

Publication

tcom:publishedIn Prodr. [A. P. de Candolle] 8: 540. 1844 [mid Mar 1844]
tn:year 1844


http://www.ipni.org/ipni/plantNameByVersion.do?id=100975-1&v...

Another case where changes have been made yet the CoL hasn't updated. First in time takes priority, too many US sites have updated the name to be ignored. I could try to find more information on the 'renaming' of this plant in 1914 but as this site uses the CoL regardless of the evidence it's not worth my time.

Funastrum cynanchoides Schltr.

nol: (A) made on 2016-01-30 11:39:15.0

http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=106371-2&ba...

Publication

tcom:publishedIn Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 13: 284. 1914
tn:year 1914


http://www.ipni.org/ipni/plantNameByVersion.do?id=106371-2&v...



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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Jun 3, 2016 6:42 AM CST
Well, I am lost. Some of the pictures look like my plant with the same type of flowers and color, and some have purplish flowers. I do know that the flower color can vary on this plant. But the plant with the thin leaves doesn't look like it at all.
What can i say, all i know is what I have. Smiling
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Name: Lisa Olson
Washington DC (Zone 7a)
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5601Lisa
Jun 3, 2016 8:29 AM CST
A daunting amount of info here. I'm convinced my plant is sand vine, Cynanchum laeve. I remember last year thinking its fragrance was kinda nice, and it thrived on neglect. Ultimately, it's a weed. Next day with cool temps, I'm whipping out my hori.
Thanks all.
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Jun 3, 2016 9:00 AM CST
Lisa, your plant is a host for the Milkweed butterflies, especially Monarchs.
If you don't have much milkweed around, you might want to save it for them, and help them in their efforts to increase their numbers. Smiling
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