Permaculture forum: Land Regeneration of the Loess Plateau

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hazelnut
Jun 7, 2016 5:59 AM CST
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/0...

"In 60 years the earth's topsoil will be gone."

This sounds like a dire prediction of doom for humans on earth. The restoration of the Loess Plateau soils in China may offer a solution.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Jun 7, 2016 7:38 AM CST
Thanks for posting that link! Lots of great info.

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hazelnut
Jun 10, 2016 4:15 PM CST
I think Mercola is relatively new to permaculture--but its good to see the ideas being promoted anyway.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Jun 10, 2016 5:17 PM CST
What I liked about Mercola's article is that he didn't try to define permaculture in an overly simplistic way. It goes beyond gardening and growing.

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hazelnut
Jun 11, 2016 6:26 AM CST
Yes. Beyond gardening and growing. A young woman showed up at my house a few weeks ago and decided she would "help" me. First she collected all the cardboard boxes on my front porch and proceeded to haul them down to the trash pickup on the street. I had to get my wagon, and haul them all back again. Cardboard is so valuable for stopping weeds and clearing new garden spaces! Ugh. Then she started snipping away at my bushes, And throwing the clippings in the garbage. Back to the garbage can to recover the clippings. And I hate the "eye pokers" you invariably get when someone else cuts things in your yard. Its hard to explain to someone hell bent on "cleaning up", that everything organic gets recycled back into the garden. Grrrrr. I dont need help! Earlier a woman brought her husband with a 2 gallon sprayer of Round Up. I am still recovering from that episode. Why don't people understand you when you say NO I dont need your help!
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Jun 11, 2016 7:40 AM CST
Gosh! That's rather presumptive on their part, huh?

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hazelnut
Jun 15, 2016 5:15 PM CST
yes. permaculture is beyond gardening and growing.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Jul 4, 2016 11:35 AM CST
hazelnut said:A young woman showed up at my house a few weeks ago and decided she would "help" me. First she collected all the cardboard boxes on my front porch and proceeded to haul them down to the trash pickup on the street.

I had to get my wagon, and haul them all back again. Cardboard is so valuable for stopping weeds and clearing new garden spaces! Ugh.

Then she started snipping away at my bushes, And throwing the clippings in the garbage. Back to the garbage can to recover the clippings.

And I hate the "eye pokers" you invariably get when someone else cuts things in your yard.

Its hard to explain to someone hell bent on "cleaning up", that everything organic gets recycled back into the garden. Grrrrr. I dont need help!

Earlier a woman brought her husband with a 2 gallon sprayer of Round Up. I am still recovering from that episode.

Why don't people understand you when you say NO I dont need your help!


Hmmm...
How do we turn these lemons into lemonade?

The young girl almost sounds like a pupil....
As in.... When the pupil is ready.... The teacher will appear...

By discussing what the cardboard is for.... By discussing the hazards of willy-nilly pruning... A young girl might gain some wisdom from her elder.

The people with the toxic poisons?
I don't know, call the cops?

Why don't people leave us alone when we say that we don't want help?

When we live in town, and people see our resources pile up, they get concerned about vermin, and try to help... As opposed to the ones that call the police....

Maybe be grateful to have the ones that want to help?

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