Plant ID forum: What large Evergreen do I have?

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Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Jun 9, 2016 12:14 PM CST
I have this huge evergreen shrub that gets tiny flowers every late spring and the shrub grows like a weed, but never gets berries or seeds. What is it?
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Jun 9, 2016 1:40 PM CST
Reminds me of a Viburnum, maybe V. tinus, but I'm surprised you never see berries.
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Moonhowl
Jun 9, 2016 2:44 PM CST
I thought Viburnum until I clicked on the picture. Keith's plant has 4 petal blooms, Viburnum tinus flowers have 5 petals. The leaves on Keith's plant appear to be slightly crenelated and the Viburnum's are entire (smooth).

http://www.botanicaplantnursery.co.uk/viburnum-tinus-gwenlli...
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jun 9, 2016 3:13 PM CST
Maybe a variety of Ligustrum?? http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Ligustrum&button=
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 9, 2016 3:29 PM CST
What do you think about one of the Osmanthus species?

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plantladylin
Jun 9, 2016 3:49 PM CST
[quote="Moonhowl"]What do you think about one of the Osmanthus species?

]https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1...
It does look like Osmanthus, wonder if the blooms are fragrant? We have some listed in our database with photos for comparison: http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Osmanthus&button=

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JRsbugs
Jun 9, 2016 4:20 PM CST
Ilex crenata?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=evergreen+shrub+4+petal+wh...
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Jun 9, 2016 9:19 PM CST
[quote="plantladylin"]Maybe a variety of Ligustrum?? ]http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Ligustrum&button=...

I have privet and they aren't evergreens. Plus it would get berries and it doesn't.
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Jun 9, 2016 9:20 PM CST
plantladylin said:
It does look like Osmanthus, wonder if the blooms are fragrant? We have some listed in our database with photos for comparison: http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Osmanthus&button=



There is some fragrance.
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JRsbugs
Jun 9, 2016 9:22 PM CST
[quote="JRsbugs"]Ilex crenata?

]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=evergreen+shrub+4+petal+wh...

Name: John
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You can't have too many viburnums..
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ViburnumValley
Jun 9, 2016 9:36 PM CST
Can't be a Viburnum, Privet, or Osmanthus, as those genera have opposite arrangement of leaves. This plant has alternate arrangement of its simple leaves.

One would better identify this plant as a MALE Ilex crenata - Japanese Holly. Note the staminate flowers, which only produce pollen.

You'll need a female Japanese Holly in order to see fruit form, and then they'll be relatively unnoticed and black in color.

NOTE: it is much easier to identify plants like this if you start with a picture of the WHOLE plant, and then zoom in to show the finer details.
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HamiltonSquare
Jun 9, 2016 9:48 PM CST
Those crenate leaves.....Ilex crenata looks exactly right Janet.
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Name: Keith
West Babylon, NY (Zone 7a)
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keithp2012
Jun 9, 2016 11:39 PM CST
[quote="JRsbugs"]Ilex crenata?

]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=evergreen+shrub+4+petal+wh...

You are right! Too bad mine isn't female it would literally have thousands and thousands of berries on it, my shrub is almost 20 feet wide and 5 foot tall!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jun 10, 2016 5:59 AM CST
You might have had a job fitting in a close enough photo of a shrub 20 feet wide!

It is a pity you don't get berries, unless you have another space 20 feet wide for a female plant? Cut back some of the male to make space for a female? You would presumably have to buy a plant in flower to know it was female.

It must provide a good place for birds to nest?

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