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twitcher
May 16, 2011 10:11 PM CST
Sempervivum ciliosum are one of the species of Sempervivum. Ciliosum means "hairs", so the cili's are semps that tend to be covered with tiny cilia or hairs on the plants. This can be more or less noticeable, depending on variety. Just because a sempervivium has hairs on it, however, does not guarantee it is a ciliosum. Other species of Sempervivum can have cilia as well.

Ciliosum tend to form rosettes that are more round like a ball than many other Sempervivum which has an interesting appearance when forming clumps. In addition, ciliosum flowers are yellow, which is unusual for most Sempervivum.

Some known varieties of ciliosum:

S. ciliosum (species type)
S. ciliosum f/ Ali Botusch (multiple offsets on long stolons, from Ali Botusch)
S. ciliosum from Orelek
S. ciliosum from Rila Village
S. ciliosum from Strumska Dolina
S. ciliosum from Toumba Varnous
S. ciliosum subsp. octopodes
S. ciliosum subsp. octopodes var. apetalum
S. ciliosum var. bandericianum
S. ciliosum var. borisii (noted for long cilia)
S. ciliosum var. galicicum from Mali Hat, Albania (globular in form, looks almost like a cactus)

Known hybrids in the hobby:

S. ciliosum x S. marmoreum ssp. erythraeum


S. ciliosum var. 'Borisii' photo taken by insiderart (Terri)
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 17, 2011 2:18 PM CST

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Twit that is a great list. Do you have a photo of one of them to put in your first post?

I'm going to look those up, the last description sounds so interesting. I can't find a link for S. ciliosum var. galicicum from Mali Hat, Albania to see a photo. Do you have one twit?



Name: Terri
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insiderart
May 18, 2011 6:28 AM CST
I have a small borisii if Twit doesn't have any of them. I could get a photo.
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twitcher
May 18, 2011 11:12 AM CST
Please feel free to post your own photos here.

I think I have a borisii and maybe two other types, but getting photos with all the rain is a real challenge right now. Also, my borisii was the one blasted by storm damage, I think, so its not a typical plant at the moment.

Good thing I'm a swimmer. If you see an ark in your area, book a ticket. We've had rain almost every day for at least two months now. It's going to take a long time for the south to dry out with all the water in the systems.
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valleylynn
May 18, 2011 1:31 PM CST

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Well the ark left our area finally, must be headed your way twit. Sad

Terri, can you get us a nice close up of your borisii. Just post here and I'll move it up to twits first post so it will show as a thumbnail for this thread. Hurray!
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insiderart
May 18, 2011 2:46 PM CST
Ok. When I get home.
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valleylynn
May 18, 2011 3:45 PM CST

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Thanks Terri, can't wait to see it. Group hug
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insiderart
May 18, 2011 8:01 PM CST
Ok, here's S. ciliosum var. "Borisii"

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valleylynn
May 18, 2011 9:51 PM CST

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Isn't she a beauty. Thank you so much Terri. I will get it moved up to the first post.
Name: Terri
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insiderart
May 19, 2011 5:13 AM CST
You're quite welcome. It's quite small and I haven't had it long, so it's not open much yet. It will be interesting to see what it turns into.
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valleylynn
May 19, 2011 9:22 AM CST

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Keep us posted on it's progress Terri. : )

S. 'Regal' does show some cilia and much more of it at different times of the year, but it is not in the category of ciliosum.


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insiderart
May 19, 2011 12:10 PM CST
Ooo, yeah that's a pretty one. I remember the white babies!
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goldfinch4
May 31, 2011 6:55 AM CST

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I have S. ciliosum var. borisii and this spring it had shrunk to about 1/2" diameter. I ordered another one, and now that one is going to bloom without sending out any offsets. Hope my littles ones recover this summer.
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valleylynn
May 31, 2011 9:20 AM CST

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Mine have just now started to make offsets. I got them the end of Jan from NHN. Let me know Chris if you need replacements when these offsets root.
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goldfinch4
May 31, 2011 9:46 AM CST

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Thanks Lynn - I'll keep that in mind!
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BlueFox
Jun 7, 2011 7:01 AM CST
I'm expecting this in one of my swaps - Jane sent me the picture, so this won't be what mine looks like, especially after a cross continent ride. Rolling on the floor laughing
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valleylynn
Jun 7, 2011 8:18 AM CST

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That is such a beautiful green Jacki. What is the name? Lovey dubby

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twitcher
Jun 7, 2011 10:59 PM CST
Jacki, Doesn't look like it is a ciliosum, though. Curious regarding name here too.

Anyway, Lynn and anybody with some ciliosum. Have you felt the plant yet? Wonderful soft texture. don't pet them too much though, don't want to wear them out.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 7, 2011 11:10 PM CST

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They really are soft to the touch. I will try real hard not to pet them to often. Whistling
Name: BlueFox
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BlueFox
Jun 8, 2011 8:41 PM CST
Jane labeled it as S. ciliosum var. borissi, but when I compare the pics of the one Chris has it's not even close. Hmm.

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