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Jun 26, 2016 7:52 AM CST
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I have read a few articles on hummingbirds and lilies and some say they are not attracted and can not drink from an oriental lily which I do not believe for one second. One of my interests is birds and in particular birds of prey but also the backyard birds as well.
I have seen 5 hummers this morning on the Asiatic Lilies that are blooming..........
and have seen them countless times on other species of lilies
they say not the oriental because the nectar tube is not the same as the other lilies.......

Hummers are attracted to color and not fragrance but also to the size of the flowers.....

how many hummers do you get??

I am not sure if the hummingbird could pollinate one lily to another........suppose that could happen too which is also said to not happen
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Jun 26, 2016 8:29 AM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I have not noticed humminbirds in my gardens. But i have read that cultivars like 'Karen North' and 'Red Velvet' and a couple others seem to do well at attracting them. I planted 3 'Karen North' this year in hopes of attracting them. Though i have had a hummingbird feeder last year and had no luck. Maybe they don't like Wisconsin
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Jun 26, 2016 9:22 AM CST
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Dave they are likely there. It is much colder where I am and they come back faithfully every year.. They prefer the color of the flowers to be red but at the moment they are using yellow and red ones here..... one idea of the name of the cultivator here.....
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Jun 26, 2016 10:12 AM CST
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I get the hummers going after Red Velvet, one I can see from my patio. I'm sure they like other Asiatic lilies spread through my gardens. My guess is they prefer the out to down facing ones for ease of access.
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Jun 26, 2016 10:22 AM CST
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Morden Butterfly and Red Velvet are favorites here. Though they do like lilies in general, at least they do here.
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Jun 26, 2016 10:59 AM CST
central Illinois
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Not hummingbirds, but close to it, not in the morning but as the sun goes down...
I've noted quite a few Hummingbird Moths attracted to these lilies - Scheherazade, Salmon Star, Stargazer, Beauty Rose, Album, and henryi

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Jun 26, 2016 11:04 AM CST
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Oh my goodness I hope I do not see those moths here ever.......
they are something that I will run away and far from.......lol. Some odd fear I have.....
Apparently the martagon attract some huge moths someone told me and I am not going out there at night to find out
suppose Regale does too with its scent........

I am also not that fond of butteries either but have seen a few monarchs that year for a change and that is nice to see and actually on my lilies

the moths will pollinate the flowers right??

I actually have never seen a hummingbird moth before.......not sure if I am in the right place for them....... they are truly amazing looking though.........do they make any noise??
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Jun 26, 2016 11:16 AM CST
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You can hear them, especially when they fly by your head, once one was so close, I could feel it's little wings on my cheek.
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Jun 26, 2016 12:14 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Like Connie says, hummingbirds. go crazy over Red Velvet here too. That and 'Lucifer'. Those hummingbird moths are a real trip. I can feel the breeze when they fly by my face and some ought to watch where they're going. I've had them bump right into my face. They're actually quite pretty! Smiling
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Jun 26, 2016 12:20 PM CST
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Hummingbirds also love my zinnias, of all colors.
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Jun 26, 2016 12:56 PM CST
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Well I think that I have seen one of the moths before on a honeysuckle years ago...... I did a search and I am in a good area for them to be around and also the big problem right now as well is that I have a super cool Tulip Tree in bloom with over 1000 tulips on it and been flowering for almost a few weeks now and not done yet.... The tulip tree flowers are a top favourite of hummingbirds I just read in a bird book as well as the Tulip Tree is favourite of the hummingbird moth ........... and I actually need both types for pollination since this is being made a special seed tree that is out of zone soon...... will come with a plaque and maybe even tv coverage.........

So likely that is reason for all the hummers on the lilies the last few days or......
were they hummingbird moths.......... Confused

anyhow Hummers are nice and the lilies are nice..........and I would think they would use any flower that puts out lots of nectar and I know the lilies do and the tulip tree for sure does too

never heard of red velvet before??
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Jun 26, 2016 2:04 PM CST
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Jun 26, 2016 3:43 PM CST
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My neighbor has a hummingbird feeder, but they always seem to be in my yard. I'm not sure I've noticed any preference for certain kinds of lilies, but I would say they seem to spend more time feeding from my other types of flowers than they do on my lilies. (I grow almost exclusively species flowers that grow natively somewhere in the world.) Butterflies of all kinds (and other insects) are simply "fascinated" with my lilies. It is often difficult to shoe them away long enough to get a good photo.

Here is how a butterfly pollenates:
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Jun 26, 2016 3:54 PM CST
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Great photos Lefty.
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Jun 26, 2016 4:02 PM CST
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I just had an Anna's snort Hiawatha (1b) then George Slate (1c).
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Jun 26, 2016 5:49 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
I do not recall having seen any of the two hummingbird species that visit me feed from the Liliums, but they adore my yellow variegated Abutilons (lots of fights for them). The red Abutilon does not seem to please them as much as the yellow ones.

What I observed on my oriental hybrid lilies is that, late in the season, bees adored to rub their bellies on the pollen. Since last season there are more bees around, because my neighbeour installed a lot of bee hieves Thumbs up
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Jun 26, 2016 6:14 PM CST
Name: Gary
Wyoming MN (Zone 4a)
Last year my gardens were visited by a bumblebee hummingbird moth. When I first spotted it, I thought it was a huge bumble bee. Closer inspection showed it to be a moth. It visited both lily and daylily blooms. I didn't know such a creature existed until I googled it. It was both beautiful and fascinating to watch.
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Jun 26, 2016 7:19 PM CST
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The bees are in abundance here since they are here from the neighbours hive that is a few miles up the road. I was told by a bee keeper that have radar when it comes to the tulip tree. Last year on all the flowers only had 2 seed pods that fell off the tree with no viable seed in them.........so they were heavy pollinated....
This year the seeds are being collected and grown by the ministry of natural resources here in Ontario and the conservation society to see if the mother tree can produce seedlings that can survive in my zone when it normally only survives in 2 zones higher then here.... In order to this the tree has to be a proven tree and being 100 or so years old and lived through all the elements here makes it that way so lets hope this all works out.....

but on the other hand all the bees are also visiting all the lilies here..........and have this year for some odd reason instead of returning to the other hive have also started another hive in another tree on my property........ likely since all the lilies are starting to bloom at the same time that the other annuals are as well as the tulip tree........and other flowering bushes..........all blooming at the same time does not normally happen........the bees have a great smorg and decided to stay around I guess..... Will pull off all the spent flowers on the lilies so I do not have tons of lily seeds........ I had quite a few last year....as well.

nature amazes me .............
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Jun 28, 2016 8:19 AM CST
Minnesota and Alaska (Zone 3a)
I have been gone to much this year and haven't seen any hummers yet. The lilies are just now starting to open with the heavy rainy weather we have been having so far. Normally though the hummingbirds and bees hanging off of the hollyhocks, lilies and nepeta look like they are having a drunken frat party. It would be difficult to know if they like the lilies more then other plants because I have so much variety planted to encourage them. Of the three plants listed I would say that the nepeta is the hands down winner throughout the season. They bloom for most of the season (I have multiple varieties) and are one of the first flowers to open, after initial bloom cutting back they bloom again until late summer. The hummers love them which is odd because they are various shades of blue for the most part. The main reason I use them so extensively though is because the deer hate them so I always plant them around the lilies or any other plant that the deer love.
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Jun 28, 2016 9:24 AM CST
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I seen a few scientific articles that ruby throated hummingbirds are attracted to Gold Band big time.......and with that being an oriental species............you wander what attracts them........maybe the size of the flower or the scent and for sure not the color..........
I would think that the species put out lots of nectar.......maybe even more then some other types of lilies
maybe Lorn or someone knows for sure more about this then me

I have just a simple red
Asiatic out here blooming and saw 4 hummers around them this morning........showed no interest in the yellow ones close by

might have a lower amount of hummers around once the tulip tree is done for this year..............

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