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Jan 18, 2017 4:49 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
Connie,
Here is an outfacing seedling again from the ruffled edge line, but an interesting colour which the outfacing flower show well.
Jim
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Jan 18, 2017 4:51 PM CST
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Name: Connie
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Another nice pastel!
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Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
I have recently started working with aurelian lilies - those with more of the henryi like look dominating. Because I like the ruffled edges on flowers, I picked this one out of a group of seedlings.
At present I don't know of any others working on the ruffled trait in any of the lily groups. However, if anyone out there is I would certainly like to correspond with them.
Jim
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Jan 18, 2017 4:58 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Lovely creations, just lovely! Thumbs up Acorn

Welcome!
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Jan 18, 2017 5:00 PM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Wow Jim. Nice looking stuff you have going on!
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Jan 18, 2017 5:35 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
Thanks, Dave. Are you hybridizing with lilies as well?
Here's a look at one of my initial steps toward very dark asiatics with with frosted centres. A new upfacing seedling.

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Jan 18, 2017 6:10 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Welcome, Jim!
Fantastic flowers, as usual! nodding
I was especially struck by the ruffled aurelian. I didn't know there were such things! The ruffles have the gloriosoides look the them. Very special!
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Jan 18, 2017 6:15 PM CST
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Dr. Robert Griesbach, before his retirement, was doing some work with ruffling in trumpets. I saw these in his field in 2015. They were tetraploid pink trumpets, if I recall correctly. They were striking. Ruffling, prior to that, in a lilium, hadn't been anything I had considered.
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Jan 18, 2017 6:17 PM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Jim, I have just gotten started with lilies in the hybridizing aspect. So I can't say I am. I have some growing from seed right now, and some from a couple pollen dabbing I did this past growing season. So by all means I'm an amateur.

I have seen your creations on the Yahoo group though. Just amazing!
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Jan 18, 2017 7:08 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Welcome Jim! I have enjoyed your posts on the yahoo group very much. I like this format much better than the yahoo group though. I hope you become an active member over hear and enjoy the posts. - Joe
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Jan 18, 2017 7:28 PM CST
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Name: Hank Z
WNY state (Zone 6a)
Hi Jim, You have found my hideaway. I think you will find it much easier to post your pix here. You have some nice lilies there.
Following pic is of a seed exchange seedling 4n ruffled trumpet from Bob Greisbach. I also have a pic of a pink edged one on my other computer to post later.. I have some seeds planted with this x'd with one of my OT seedings that may flower this year.
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Hank Z
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Jan 18, 2017 7:45 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Hank Z
WNY state (Zone 6a)
Sdlg 09-422 ruffled, can't say that this one is still in the garden. I think it is a trait that sometimes looks a bit rough.
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Hank Z
WNY near the Falls
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Jan 18, 2017 9:01 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Leftwood said:Welcome, Jim!
Fantastic flowers, as usual! nodding
I was especially struck by the ruffled aurelian. I didn't know there were such things! The ruffles have the gloriosoides look the them. Very special!


Close--but no cigar here. It seems this trait is most likely to appear in the 'white stage' or the second or third crossings from L. henryi. and tend to level out or become wavy with addition crossing.

Note: that wooden stick in the picture is a 1 square inch frost tarping pole.


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Jan 18, 2017 10:09 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
Hank,
I guess I did find you Hank and glad I did as you are doing some fantastic work. Did you give up on the very dark lilies you were working on some years ago now?
It would appear to me that there are ruffled lilies and then there are ruffled lilies and by that I mean that not all the forms of it will be pleasing. Some give more of the kinked look, but who knows with a bit of work they could give pleasing results in a few generation or so.
The lily from Dr.Greisbach's seed is certainly on the right track. It will be interesting to see the results of the cross with your OT. I wonder how dominant this trait will be. I think Dr. Greisbach was working with a picotee edge in combination with the ruffling too.
Keep up the good work and I will look forward to seeing more.
Jim
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Jan 18, 2017 10:21 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
Rick,
Yes, the ruffling on my aurelian seedling is reminiscent gloriosoides and I was actually hoping that I would be able to find some pollen of it to put on my seedling. Probably just a hybridizers dream but….

Lorn,
Interesting observation regarding the ruffled trait. I have crossed it with an orange henryi type aurelian seedling (photo) I have that displays some ruffling as well. They have germinated now, so in a coouple of years I will see some results hopefully.

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Jan 18, 2017 10:24 PM CST
Name: Jim
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Zone 3a)
Hank,
I was going to say that I was sorry for tagging on to your thread - kind of got carried away.
Jim
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Jan 19, 2017 5:14 AM CST
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Welcome! Jim.

I have enjoyed looking at your images immensely. Yes, it seems there are different levels of beauty to ruffles and yours are definitely the best I've seen Smiling . I love the subtle blended pastel colors as well. Great work!
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Jan 19, 2017 5:51 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
You make an inspirational combo, Hank and Jim!

Lorn, could you please explain the 'white stage'? I'm all ears!
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Jan 19, 2017 7:57 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Della, don't confuse the white one in picture as typical to what I and a couple others call the 'white stage'. The picture was meant to show Rick a broader ruffle that I see frequently with early generation Aurelians. I'll explain a little on that white stage in the sticky thread 'Hybridizing--- ' soon (so as to not run Hank's thread off course). Thumbs up

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