Plumeria forum: Bagging cuttings

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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Jul 7, 2016 1:41 PM CST
For those of you who bag their cuttings, and have actually had success rooting them, tell me how you do this. What are the advantages of bagging? I am ready to do some experimentation. Whistling
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drdawg
Jul 8, 2016 6:24 AM CST
Does no one bag their plumeria cuttings?
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Name: Jeff
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Moe
Jul 8, 2016 9:59 AM CST
I have read on it but never attempted to try...From reading i see people use either Perlite , Choir, Pumice,or Peat moss with perlite...
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tarev
Jul 8, 2016 10:02 AM CST
Why would you need to bag your Plumies Ken, your growing conditions are much better than most of us. But if you go to youtube there is a video upload there, just search there, bagging plumerias, interesting demo.
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drdawg
Jul 8, 2016 10:17 AM CST
I don't know, Tarev. Just my need to try something different. That's how I learn and am able to give advice to folks who want to do something like bagging.

Thanks for the U-tube info. I will check it out. I have a dozen or do bagged in moist sphagnum moss, in the shade and warmth of a greenhouse. I'll see.
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tarev
Jul 8, 2016 10:21 AM CST
I was just watching it, it is interesting, there is one using empty water bottles with holes, but I think it will be more difficult to remove the rooted cutting later.
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drdawg
Jul 8, 2016 10:29 AM CST
I don't use the water-bottle technique. I just use zip-lock baggies, tapped to the base of the cutting. I might rot them all, but then again.............. Crossing Fingers!
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waterdawg19
Jul 8, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Drdawg,

I have used the bag rooting with success. I did it side by side with a cutting on standard pot and the bag method worked way better. The moisture trapped in the bag was just right amount of humidity it seemed. I have a word document that explains the process. I followed it to a T except I used standard MG potting soil with a little perlite, and painters tape instead of electrical. Is there a way to attached a word doc on here?
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drdawg
Jul 8, 2016 11:21 AM CST
The only way I know to do that (I'm computer-illiterate) is to copy that document and then simply paste it here.
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waterdawg19
Jul 8, 2016 11:43 AM CST
It has pics and stuff as well. Private message me your email and I will send it to you.
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drdawg
Jul 9, 2016 11:05 AM CST
I checked my first bagged cuttings for the first time yesterday, and low and behold, I already have rooting. They have been bagged for 13 days. Since it took so long to hear back from anyone on how to go about this bagging experiment, I did it differently. I used 100% moist, long-fibered sphagnum moss as my medium. These plants were cut on 6-20 and were bagged on 6-26. Leaving more medium-size leaves on these plants than I normally would did not seem to hinder their rooting. The cuttings in my typical 100% perlite have done absolutely nothing, and some were cut a month ago. Notice that I simply tied plastic-coated wire around the bag and moss, so this does allow some water vapor to escape. Subsequent bagging was done, still with moss, but I used painter's tape to seal the bag rather than the wire.

Of interest is what sunburn looks like. I made the mistake and left my cuttings out in the midday sun (for a single day) after they were first bagged. I knew better. Not having a leaf-canopy to protect their stems, cuttings will be very prone to sunburn. In fact, in my experience, mostly leafless cuttings (or potted plants) are about the only sort of plumeria that will sunburn. Generally, those rooted (and potted) plants will have that nice leaf-canopy, shading the stems from the harsh sun.

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Name: Jeff
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Moe
Jul 9, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Hey that's pretty neat Ken on the rooting in sphagnum Moss .. The roots look good and healthy....
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drdawg
Jul 9, 2016 8:13 PM CST
I will let those roots continue to increase for a few days, Jeff. I don't know whether the roots I see are of one cutting (probably) or more. I do want to separate the rooted cutting(s) from the non-rooted ones before all the roots grow and entangle sister-plants. Timing is helpful here. Many knowledgeable folks let the roots really grow and mature before planting but I do not. Once I see root development, in my eyes at least, there is simply no reason to let the roots develop much further. Get them potted, get the plant(s) in brighter light (not sun yet,) and begin low-dose fertilization. My theory is that when rooting starts, the cutting is ready for active growth, I don't care about leaf development or whether there are massive amounts of roots. I get them in potting soil and get them outside, though in lots of shade for a while. When they begin to really leaf-out, they can generally handle full or nearly full sun.
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 10, 2016 4:37 PM CST
Good job! I am going to try that technique with my newest cutting off a broken plant. Is there instructions somewhere online?
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waterdawg19
Jul 11, 2016 8:08 AM CST
Here you go. I followed it to a T except I used standard MG potting soil with a little perlite, and painters tape instead of electrical.
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2016 5:14 PM CST
Thanks for all the tips here @waterdawg19 and @drdawg. I took a little from you both. Here is my bagging experiment. I used the broken branch I found last week.

Having no coir, i used very wet sphagnum moss. I hope there is enough in there@drdawg? I didn't know what size bag. I used a gallon bag. But cinched it up good letting all the air out then tying it first with a bread tie then painter's tape on top. Overkill, right? Ha! Tha'ts me. It is not air tight. Is that okay? I folded over the rest of the bag fir further insulation. That was my own idea from what we did from a medical treatment when my DD was young. We held heat in with layers of plastic.

She sits in the shade with the late afternoon sun just around the corner.


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drdawg
Jul 11, 2016 8:30 PM CST
Depending on whether I am doing a single or a bundle, I use either sandwich or quart bags.
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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2016 9:08 PM CST
I used a gallon baggie. Rolling on the floor laughing Oh well. OverKill-Cheryl, that's me.
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drdawg
Jul 12, 2016 5:44 AM CST
It shouldn't matter, Cheryl. "Whatever is handy" is what I always say. Thumbs up
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