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Jul 9, 2016 6:33 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Yeah. Sort of ironic I suppose...considering I JUST got interested enough to inquire it's deposition..
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Jul 9, 2016 6:58 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Brenden, do you know what species it is (or was)? If so, I would think there is somewhere you can get some seeds for it -- and do the state some good by propagating it! Smiling
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Jul 9, 2016 7:05 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Yea I'm 10000000000% sure it was tuberosa. Butterfly weed common name. I ACTUALLY have germinated seeds growing. Only an inch long at most though.

I just had a bad feeling in my gut that when they started mowing sections of the highway that's it would come to this...

Regardless.. I did email dnr. So I'll know for future reference.

And since started gardening last year, I now know that's the majority of wildflowers I pass are phlox.

White, pink, purple. All over
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Jul 9, 2016 7:57 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Well, no need really to dig up any wildflowers when seeds are easily attainable...
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Jul 9, 2016 8:42 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Most people don't realize that in many (most?) states, private landowners still own the land that County Roads traverse. Perhaps other roads, too. The public has easement to use the road, but the land and plants are the landowner's property. From experience, most landowners don't even know (or care) that they have plants of interest along the road. I've never been refused access, and in EVERY instance, the owner thanked me(!) for taking the time to respect them and their land.
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Jul 10, 2016 4:53 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Leftwood said:Most people don't realize that in many (most?) states, private landowners still own the land that County Roads traverse. Perhaps other roads, too. The public has easement to use the road, but the land and plants are the landowner's property. From experience, most landowners don't even know (or care) that they have plants of interest along the road. I've never been refused access, and in EVERY instance, the owner thanked me(!) for taking the time to respect them and their land.



So, how would I know if that scenario is occurring?

Do I go to an official and ask?
Or like a trick or treater door to door?
I know there are adopt a highways but I never heard of this one.also, is that a venus fly trap as your picture?
if so hahaha rock on, I grow them with all other carnivorous plants
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Jul 10, 2016 6:04 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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bhart90 said:

And since started gardening last year, I now know that's the majority of wildflowers I pass are phlox.

White, pink, purple. All over


Are you sure it's not dame's rocket, which I've often heard mistaken for phlox?



See also:

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Invasi...
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Jul 10, 2016 7:18 AM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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bhart90 said:

So, how would I know if that scenario is occurring?

Do I go to an official and ask?
Or like a trick or treater door to door?


trick or treat can I have that plant in your yard Hilarious!
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Jul 10, 2016 9:02 AM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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is this dame's rocket Sue?
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Jul 10, 2016 9:33 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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ediblelandscapingsc said:is this dame's rocket Sue



No, dame's rocket is in the mustard/cabbage family so has only four flower petals.
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Jul 10, 2016 10:07 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA (Zone 7b)
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I hate when they mow down blooming plants! Thumbs down

Daniel, that looks like Sabatia. Smiling
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Jul 10, 2016 10:31 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
sooby said:

Are you sure it's not dame's rocket, which I've often heard mistaken for phlox?



See also:

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Invasi...


That's it. Darn, and seeing the word invasive next to it makes me frown.
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Jul 10, 2016 11:17 AM CST
Name: Christie
Central Ohio 43016 (Zone 6a)
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I stayed a motel in Michigan once and noticed a blue flower i really liked. I went to the office and asked if I could dig up a bit -- they went and found a spoon for me to use! If you want to know who the landowner is, you might try looking up the property record for that parcel on the county treasurer's website - it is public information. Also, don't give up on dnr, I have always found them very helpful and agreeable to work with. Also, the plant may grow back - you still might get the opportunity to legally dig it up! Crossing Fingers!
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Jul 10, 2016 11:20 AM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Danita said:I hate when they mow down blooming plants! Thumbs down

Daniel, that looks like Sabatia. Smiling


I agree Looks like Sabatia
wildflowersoftexas.com



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Jul 10, 2016 12:54 PM CST
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bhart90 said:

And, the plant is no longer standing.


Butterfly Milkweed tolerates mowing quite well. They are abundant in native hay meadows around here where they have been annually mowed in mid-late summer for a 100 years or more.
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Jul 10, 2016 6:42 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Leftwood said:Most people don't realize that in many (most?) states, private landowners still own the land that County Roads traverse. Perhaps other roads, too. The public has easement to use the road, but the land and plants are the landowner's property. From experience, most landowners don't even know (or care) that they have plants of interest along the road. I've never been refused access, and in EVERY instance, the owner thanked me(!) for taking the time to respect them and their land.



Rick, my understanding is that the state (or maybe the county?) controls -- or perhaps owns -- the right-of-way? Which, in Michigan, is "66 feet, or two rods (33 feet), on each side of each section line" (which I don't entirely understand - what do they mean by section line?). I do know that our property description is blah, blah, blah, lying north of county road A-31, blah, blah, blah.... but, truthfully, I'm not at all sure where our property would actually start if not right at the pavement. I know we mow along the shoulder... LOL. Things are pretty loosely controlled here in the UP, I think.
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Jul 10, 2016 7:09 PM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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Weedwhacker said:

Rick, my understanding is that the state (or maybe the county?) controls -- or perhaps owns -- the right-of-way? Which, in Michigan, is "66 feet, or two rods (33 feet), on each side of each section line" (which I don't entirely understand - what do they mean by section line?). I do know that our property description is blah, blah, blah, lying north of county road A-31, blah, blah, blah.... but, truthfully, I'm not at all sure where our property would actually start if not right at the pavement. I know we mow along the shoulder... LOL. Things are pretty loosely controlled here in the UP, I think.



In Catawba SC I was told there was a 15 ft right-of-way from the edge of the road. so what happens if they use that, do they get 15 more feet? Thumbs down
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Jul 11, 2016 11:29 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Asclepias provide good foliage for the monarchs after they have been mowed.
In my area, they don't produce many seedpods even if they aren't mowed... And the extension agents warn people not to even try digging them... That digging them in bloom is sure to kill them.

And as previously mentioned... Lots of asclepias tuberosa seeds on the market, and those come up pretty easily.
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Jul 11, 2016 12:50 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
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When I lived in Battle Creek, MI I dug clumps and clumps of tall roadside daylilies. Cops actually road past to not give a single care.
Up in Mackinaw the wild species rule is heavily enforced. Guess it depends on who cares IF they drive by
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Jul 11, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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bhart90 said:

So, how would I know if that scenario is occurring?

Do I go to an official and ask?
Or like a trick or treater door to door?
I know there are adopt a highways but I never heard of this one.also, is that a venus fly trap as your picture?
if so hahaha rock on, I grow them with all other carnivorous plants


You would need to find out the county laws for county roads, state law for state roads, etc. (probably on line, too.)
As far as trick or treating ( Hilarious! ), the nearest residence is the likely owner.
My point is not that you had better ask, or karma will get you. Questions like this come up rather frequently here, and I am often disturbed by the lackadaisical comments. Put rather bluntly, if you don't own the land, someone else does. What one chooses to do about it is his or her own business, or at least not mine.

I do have some personal interest here: my sister owns 40 acres along a county road with a 40 foot wide swath along the road that she owns that is full of wild blueberries. Even though this few hundred foot stretch runs right in front of her house, she seldom ever gets to pick them: because it is along the road, the "public" seems to think they have the right. Grumbling

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P.S. My avatar is made up. nodding I drew it thinking more about "The Little Shop of Horrors". Although I don't grow carnivorous plants myself, I am personal friends with most of the native species here in Minnesota. Big Grin
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