I've searched and searched without having any luck. Hopefully you all can assist?

Hi and welcome
I am not sure what tree it is. Remind me of wild cherry or another species of Prunus.

Any photo of flower ?

Wish another member will come soon to give some suggestion.

I was hoping someone would recognize this. Seems like it should be possible with the distinctive bark and fruit. How large do these get? Most fruit trees like apples and cherries aren't super huge plants. I'm really curious about this one.

And to NGA @L4RROC

Can you cut one of those fruits in half and show us what's in the inside?

Looks like a Malus/crabapple with apple scab.

I agree, and speaking of apple scab, any cure for that?

Frillylily said:I agree, and speaking of apple scab, any cure for that?

No real cure for it that I know, but you can lessen the impact. More air circulation, keep the leaves raked up and dispose of them. Fung Onil, applied just before bud break. Select scab resistant varieties for future plantings

I planted a resistant variety, it is planted in an open area of my yard w no other shrubs/trees around it, so it has plenty of air. It is raked and cleaned up meticulously. I have only had it planted 3 years and (4 summers) and for the past 3 summers by mid July most of the leaves look awful and many have fell off. It is a Robinson. I am thinking of taking it out I am so disappointed w it. I did drench the soil w a fungicide this spring, it does seem better this year, but I can still tell its there. There is no way to spray a mature tree and reach all of it, not feasible for the average homeowner. Better to just toss it out now before it gets any larger I guess.
I am thinking of replacing it w a clump amur maple.

Frillylily said:I planted a resistant variety, it is planted in an open area of my yard w no other shrubs/trees around it, so it has plenty of air. It is raked and cleaned up meticulously. I have only had it planted 3 years and (4 summers) and for the past 3 summers by mid July most of the leaves look awful and many have fell off. It is a Robinson. I am thinking of taking it out I am so disappointed w it. I did drench the soil w a fungicide this spring, it does seem better this year, but I can still tell its there. There is no way to spray a mature tree and reach all of it, not feasible for the average homeowner. Better to just toss it out now before it gets any larger I guess.
I am thinking of replacing it w a clump amur maple.

Thats really disappointing, curious if you bought from a local nursery....would they replace it since its supposed to have "good" resistance. The local arb removed a lot of their crabs just because the manpower required to spray was too much. I have an old "Red Sparkler" which is spectacular in the spring, but really looks shoddy mid summer, I sprayed with Fung Onil for several years which really helped, but they are just to large and getting on a ladder sets me up for a stupid human trick. I still have them around when its perfect conditions they are spectacular and fragrant, people stop and take pictures of them...but thats only occasionally when there is no wind or downpours which wipes out the show. Plus the apple scab resides in junipers, so if there are any around, it really makes it tough.

A neighbor has a Prairie Fire and a Tina, which for the last 2 seasons has not shown any scab..yet!

http://www.bbg.org/gardening/a...

I do have cedars around, are they a type of juniper? I have Golden Harvest crab apple on the east side of my house and so far they are ok, but they've only been there 3 years also. I love crab apples, but I am just so disappointed in this.

RJ, sure you're not thinking of cedar-apple rust regarding junipers?

Cedar-apple rust info:

http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm...

"Cedar-apple rust is an interesting disease. It requires both an apple and cedar or juniper to complete its life cycle. On the cedar, the fungus produces reddish-brown galls that are up to golf-ball size on young twigs. During wet weather these galls swell and begin to push out bright orange gelatinous tubular structures. Wind carries fungal spores from these gelatinous structures to susceptible apple or crabapple cultivars."

Apple scab info:

http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter...

From the above, hosts of apple scab (pathogen Venturia inaequalis):

"Apples and flowering crabapples (Malus spp.), hawthorn (Crataegus spp.), mountain ash (Sorbus spp.), firethorn (Pyracantha spp.), and loquat (Eriobotrya japonica). Pear (Pyrus spp.) is infected by a related fungus, Venturia pirina, which causes nearly identical symptoms."

Frillylily said:I do have cedars around, are they a type of juniper? I have Golden Harvest crab apple on the east side of my house and so far they are ok, but they've only been there 3 years also. I love crab apples, but I am just so disappointed in this.

Sooby is correct I was getting cedar apple rust mixed up with the apple scab, thank Sooby

http://www.extension.umn.edu/g...

well whatever it is, my tree is doing poorly, I do have large cedars just 100 ft from the tree. Mine looks like the OP photo, the leaves turn yellow/orangish and spotted and fall off when it gets hot out. So how to tell the diff in what a tree has?

Frillylily said:well whatever it is, my tree is doing poorly, I do have large cedars just 100 ft from the tree. Mine looks like the OP photo, the leaves turn yellow/orangish and spotted and fall off when it gets hot out. So how to tell the diff in what a tree has?

I wondered if your tree is doing any better? I have this variety, too. The mottled gold / orange fall coloration and the bark are two of the ornamental features of this crabapple along with the gorgeous flowers and oval red fruit.

http://www.onlineplantguide.co...

Missouri botanical garden says of it "Generally, 'Robinson' has excellent disease resistance to the main diseases of crabapples."
http://www.missouribotanicalga...
However, the Maine cooperative extension service gives it only a "Good" rating for Apple scab.
https://extension.umaine.edu/p...

no it continued to do poorly and I replaced it w an amur Maple and it has doubled in size already, only been there 2 years now. The Harvest Gold crab apples are still doing well. I planted 2 Cleveland pears in the back yard and now they are infected with something similar and I suspect from the cedars as well

Frillylily said:no it continued to do poorly and I replaced it w an amur Maple and it has doubled in size already, only been there 2 years now. The Harvest Gold crab apples are still doing well. I planted 2 Cleveland pears in the back yard and now they are infected with something similar and I suspect from the cedars as well

Thank you for replying. So sorry to hear that possibly cedar-apple rust is continuing to cause a problem for your crabapples. 😕I, too, have cedars but mine are the Eastern White cedar. Morton Arboretum discusses Eastern Red cedar (Juniperus virginiana) as one of the necessary hosts...

Best wishes

https://www.mortonarb.org/tree...
This is the excerpt: " Cedar-apple rust
There are several cedar-rust diseases that spend part of their life cycle on Eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana) and other junipers, and another part of their life cycle on apple, hawthorn, and other members of the rose family. Both hosts are required for the fungus to complete its life cycle. The three most common rusts occurring in Illinois are caused by Gymnosporangium juniperi-virginianae (cedar-apple rust), G. globosum (cedar-hawthorn rust), and G. clavipes (cedar-quince rust)."

Adding another resource for anyone interested in common leaf diseases of crabapples.


https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/...