Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: How do i propagate this?

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Ellen34
Jul 13, 2016 5:35 AM CST
I dont know the exact name of this plant but 2 members told me that its sempervivum. Just want to know how to propagate it. Thanks in advance.
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Name: Tim Stoehr
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tcstoehr
Jul 13, 2016 10:36 AM CST
It's very simple actually, but you will have to be patient. That large rosette appears to be blooming... if so then it will shrivel up and die after the bloom is finished. The small ones should grow this year and have offsets next year in Spring or Summer. Possibly even this year. Those offsets will appear as miniature rosettes on little stolons (stems) growing out from the mother plant. They are often called "chicks".

Here's an example with obvious stolons, they are often quite shorter and hard to see.
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All of those little chicks are busy growing their own roots which I think you can see in the picture. Those roots will grow downward seeking soil. Once they are rooted solidly in the soil the stolons will dissolve away and each chick can be pulled and transplanted. Even the young chicks in this picture could be cut off and planted separately right now, but it is so much better to let them root themselves because they will establish the correct soil level around them, which is important. If I were to transplant these now I would have carefully lay them out, water them, and babysit them. It's better to let mama hen do that, it works better but it's not strictly necessary. In another month I could separate those chicks and transplant them, but I'm going to leave them there and let them make a nice colony. They are generally most attractive that way, and I don't need to propagate them.
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Jul 13, 2016 10:53 AM CST
Sempervivums are commonly known as Hens and Chicks. The mother plant (hen)during the growing season will give off offsets (chicks) that one can see tucked under her lower leaves or on the end of a stolon depending on the cultivar. Generally one doesn't need to do anything manually to propagate them except to wait for them to put out offsets (clones of the mother plant) which occurs usually in Spring/Summer.

Some members have found success in propagation using the individual leaves by laying them on damp soil and waiting for roots to appear.

Ellen, your semp appears to have been growing in cramped conditions? The growing center of your semp is not pointing straight up. What happened? Looking at your first photo: Is the center elongating a little? If so, it may be putting out a flowering bloom stalk?
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Ellen34
Jul 13, 2016 12:10 PM CST
Thanks everyone. Webesemps, Yes, i think they are crowded and i am thinking of replanting them but at the same time i dont want to disturb them. I dont know what to do. The mother plant is not pointing straight up and i dont see any stalk yet. What should i do?
Name: Paul
Antelope Valley, S. California
Zone 8B/9A
Region: California
cahdg6891
Jul 13, 2016 2:40 PM CST
Hi Ellen34 Smiling

I agree with all of the above.

One of my semps is flowering and doing much the same that yours is, leaning over like that. With mine in particular, it's just leaning towards the light. I keep them on my patio in summer and have been moving things around and just plunked some of them into a spot that only gets bright shade but no real sunlight whatsoever while I rearrange things. Just put it in a brighter spot (but not full sun yet!) and it should perk up soon enough.

You could separate and repot them if you want but it's not necessary. The natural growth habit of these plants is to grow mashed against and tumbling over each other, crowding doesn't faze them. If it's really hot in your area yanking them up could stress them quite a bit as well, but if you really want to, go for it but try to disturb the roots as little as possible. Once the weather cools off some it would be a much better time to repot them! In the meantime they will be perfectly fine. Thumbs up
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Ellen34
Jul 13, 2016 3:05 PM CST
Thank you cahdg, i will probably move it, i really dont want to repot it and disturb the roots. I will let u know if i see any changes. Thanks bunches all...
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Ellen34
Jul 21, 2016 6:16 PM CST
My semp is about to have babies i think...
I didnt get a chance to move it, to a less sunny place. It is getting full sun and it kinda look scary hahah, looks like an alien and the mouth is full of teeth... Hahah but i like it.
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Name: Paul
Antelope Valley, S. California
Zone 8B/9A
Region: California
cahdg6891
Jul 21, 2016 6:44 PM CST
Yep, definitely bloom stalks! Once the blooming is over, those plants will shrivel and die. Do the blooming ones have any offsets attached to the mother plant? You might be able to get it to produce some more offsets if you cut off the flower stalks (more plants! Hurray! ). Several of us are trying it, it's this link:

The thread "Nooooo! My one and only Unicorn is going to flower!" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum

Or you could just let it bloom and go to seed, or enjoy the flowers Smiling lovely plants in your photos!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 22, 2016 8:15 AM CST

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It has really grown since your original photo Ellen. Very nice. If you let it bloom and go to seed you can plant the seeds next year.
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Ellen34
Jul 24, 2016 7:52 AM CST
Thank you. Since this is my first time to grow this plant, I will probably just let it flower and take more photos. And will just plant thbe seeds for next year. Can i keep this indoor during winter months? And if not, do they come back to life in spring? Hurray! nodding Green Grin! Green Grin! Green Grin!
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 24, 2016 8:29 AM CST

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They don't like being indoors, best to leave them outside. The blooming rosette will die, but all the others will do well outdoors in full winter conditions. Big Grin
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Ellen34
Jul 24, 2016 8:41 AM CST
Just taken this morning, forgot to attached this to my old message.

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Valleylynn... Really? That's greAt that they don't mind it being cold or hot. I do check it everyday and I will take pictures of the flowers too... Thank You!

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 24, 2016 8:54 AM CST

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Nice. Looks like it is going to have beautiful soft pink blooms. Would love to see it when it is fully open. What fun. Hurray!
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Jul 24, 2016 11:13 AM CST
Ellen34 said:Just taken this morning, forgot to attached this to my old message.
Valleylynn... Really? That's greAt that they don't mind it being cold or hot. I do check it everyday and I will take pictures of the flowers too... Thank You!


Yes, they love being outdoors if that's what you're asking. Lots of sun is generally OK but plants in containers should probably get shade or filtered light during the hotter parts of the day. Morning sun is much appreciated. Pots dry up and change temperature much faster than the ground so freezing in the winter and baking in the summer can be an issue for potted plants. These plants are hardy to roughly -30F. In the US, it's usually too much heat that creates problems, not too much cold. If you move them from indoors to outside, it would be best to acclimate them to the direct sun over the course of a week or two.
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Name: Paul
Antelope Valley, S. California
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cahdg6891
Jul 24, 2016 2:14 PM CST
If you bring it inside it will probably croak, these are very much outdoor plants. They hate being inside but can handle very cold temperatures no problem so long as they are kept dry. Damp cold means rot. They don't really grow during winter, but the roots do and once spring comes they explode! A word about heat though, they can survive temperatures over 100 F but once it gets over 85, they must be in shade (dappled light, or morning sun only are best) or they will cook. You can tell when it is getting too warm for them when they start looking lopsided, half of the plant will start growing taller on one side in an effort to shield itself from the hot sun. Here's a picture of what they look like when it starts getting too hot.


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Ellen34
Aug 4, 2016 7:28 PM CST
Just now had a chance to post pictures of the flowers.
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Name: Paul
Antelope Valley, S. California
Zone 8B/9A
Region: California
cahdg6891
Aug 4, 2016 7:35 PM CST
Beautiful flowers! Hurray!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 5, 2016 7:54 AM CST

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Veryy nice Ellen. Are you going to harvest the seed and plant them next spring?

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