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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 14, 2016 7:51 PM CST
Today, here in Michigan, it was violently windy allllll day long, and I noticed that almost my entire garden was wilted at many parts of the plants!! Wow, never seen that before, no water issue, trust me...

Will they become more "resistant" as they mature?
Brenden
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jul 15, 2016 6:03 AM CST
If their root systems are not mature then maybe, also maybe if they are new transplants with "soft" leaves. Otherwise I would say not. How are you certain there is no water issue, if I might ask? Smiling Wind increases the transpiration rate by reducing the humidity around the leaf which is one thing that regulates transpiration. Something like 90% of the water taken up by plants is lost through transpiration, it's a plant's cooling system. Some plants, like impatiens, wilt very easily even just in afternoon sun, though.
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 16, 2016 7:36 PM CST
Well, no water issue regarding the soil and ground. If I were to move 3 wood chips fragments off of a single spot, the ones under directly are moist, so on and so forth....


The mature root thing might apply though I must admit.

Odd because I went today and same ones are still floppy, odd, I did water again, it has to be the leaves exclusively themselves?
Brenden
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Jul 16, 2016 9:28 PM CST
Not sure I follow the moving wood chip fragments, do you mean the soil under is moist, or the wood chips under the moved ones?
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 4:42 AM CST
Both, just saying the plant didn't dry out in the ground
Brenden
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Jul 17, 2016 4:53 AM CST
The reason I asked that is because wood chips can soak up irrigation water and stop it getting into the ground until they are saturated. If you've dug down into the soil a few inches with a trowel and it's not dry then that's not the problem. What kind of plants are wilting?
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 7:30 AM CST
My floral bouquet roses, I rooted them successfully.

And it's not all the leaves, just the fresh top red shoots.
Thumb of 2016-07-17/bhart90/664cda

This is NOT what it looks like today, just showing you what shoots I mean
Brenden
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Jul 17, 2016 7:41 AM CST
If they're recently rooted then they may be struggling with wind and sun. But initially you said almost your entire garden was wilting, is your entire garden floral bouquet roses? Confused

Edited to add if it's only roses that are wilting and only at the tops, and if soil moisture is adequate, and if they haven't recoverd by morning, then you might want to look for cane borers.
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 10:50 AM CST
Yes, pardon me, technically, your right, it is. I just shown these pictures because I'm more proud and focused on them.

The other plants in my perennial garden are recovering, but then again they are not in full sun to add the effect, no pictures of them recently taken though.

I was a complete fool for planting all of these in my forest. They maybe get 2 and a half hours of direct sun....... fool fool fool fool!

I have to move them elsewhere now, and that will take alooooooong time,

And there are way too many trees to trim even if I wanted to.

Live and learn I suppose, so frustrating though!

I just wanted a nice shaded enclosure for monarch butterflies to inhabit and where I could rear them without worry from as many predators that could otherwise see them in plain sight
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 10:54 AM CST
Oh great, another predator to learn about
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 10:58 AM CST
Good lord, how can I identify them and how do I prevent?
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 11:05 AM CST
Ah, just read up on them, rule them out. I guess they can only harbor your rose bush if your prune or cut, and leave it exposed for an entrance. I have never cut them for obvious reasons. But now I can address my raspberry bushes haha
Brenden
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Jul 17, 2016 2:01 PM CST
The cane borer I've seen here on roses is the raspberry cane borer. It doesn't get in through pruning. First thing you see is the tips of the shoots wilting. Some info and what to look for here:

https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef209

It's not likely to be that if the plants are no longer wilting by morning. If plants are wilting first thing in the morning you do have a problem of some kind.
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 17, 2016 2:24 PM CST
I'll check tonight like I do every night and hope for the best! Thanks again !

-Brenden
Brenden

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