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Jul 28, 2016 7:35 AM CST
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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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so many thanks Sue! I don't know why you were awake at such an early hour (I could die Hilarious! ), but really thank you! So this means it's open by very early morning or since the night before?
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info
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Jul 28, 2016 7:58 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Did I say I was awake? Hilarious! Yes, it either opened overnight or the previous afternoon or evening. I can't check it late in the day where it is, only early morning, but several websites say it opens later on the day before which would make it nocturnal.
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Jul 28, 2016 8:18 AM CST
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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Garden Photography Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Europe Lilies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Hilarious! You were in "where is the pillow" mode Hilarious!
I doubt I will see it flowering for this season, but who knows. I gifted a fan to a dear friend I'll tell her to tell me if it blooms when do the flowers open!
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info
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Jul 28, 2016 8:41 AM CST
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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Garden Photography Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Europe Lilies Garden Ideas: Level 1
I found Pardon Me on the site of another italian grower. He doesn't say it's nocturnal. Says it flowers late (ML) but nothing about it being nocturnal. Confused

Edit: found it on a third site. No mention about nocturnal blooms.
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info
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Jul 28, 2016 8:59 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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If it flowers most of the day then maybe they don't consider it significant. I don't remember when it starts to fade but I don't think it is early in the day. There must be others in the forum who have it and could comment but might not have seen this thread since it's not mentioned in the topic title.. I suspect growers would be more likely to mention its being nocturnal if it flowered mostly at night and wasn't open for long during the day.
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Jul 28, 2016 9:01 AM CST
Name: bron
NSW-Qld border Australia
18 yr old in my subtropical garden!
seems to me that daylilies can be pretty unpredictable. Apart from blooms on a single plant changing appearance across the day, they seem to sometimes respond to environmental conditions and show diversity. Like SPACECOAST RUFFLES doubling only on its last rebloom. And the polypetalling after some combination of rain and shine. Some of my plants have had very Extended blooms, but only some of the time.

I have plants like MARCIA FAY which are registered as Semi Evergreen, but every June the leaves all die off and healthy new ones shoot up. Others registered as Dormants like GRAND MASTERPIECE keep all their leaves in winter here.

I hope Sabrina that you never get rust in your garden. MILDRED MITCHELL is beautiful but I will be giving it the RAGP (remove all green parts treatment) before I plant it from its pot into the garden.
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Jul 28, 2016 9:17 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Garden Photography Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Europe Lilies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thanks Bron. As far as I can tell there's no rust, I showed a lot of pics on here and everyone agreed the signs on leaves are not rust.
The fan looks healthy. I love Mildred Mitchell blooms in pictures. The one I'm not convinced about is Passion and Style. Fromw the few pictures I saw it doesn't look anything special.

All the SEV and DOR and I have here stayed like EV the past winter! not even Stella de Oro disappeared completely. we're having mild winters with almost no freeze compared to some year ago.
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info
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Jul 29, 2016 2:01 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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cybersix said:Thanks Sue, I can't find where the percentage is, this is why I thought it's misleading.

I guess my english could be better than what it is, I know sometime (quite often) I can't exlain myself well.

At this point I don't know what to think about Pardon Me, I'll wait for DND and who has it to tell when it opens. One of the fan I have here had a scape but he cut it to send it. I can't tell if it will bloom or not.
Many thanks for everything as always! Group hug


I missed checking on the first bloom. Bloom #2 was open today but not at 6pm last night when I checked. It's possible it opened later in the evening or at night, though. I have a third bloom that should be open for tomorrow, so I'm going to try and check it late tonight if I can and see if it's opening. I might have an easier time waking up early, though, to see if it's already open in the morning. I'm not sure how that would make it different from an EMO, though. I have quite a few EMOs in my garden that I wouldn't consider nocturnal. I wonder what the approximate (or hard and fast?) cutoff is between a daylily being nocturnal versus an early morning opener. Blinking Confused
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Jul 29, 2016 2:45 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Early Morning Opener:
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...
A nocturnal daylily is supposed to open late in the afternoon and be opened all night.
I am going to try to get more early season daylilies and when I get one try to make sure it is listed as an early morning opener. I have some early season daylilies that bloom, but in the early season when the weather is cool, they refuse to open fully until very late in the morning. I like for them to be fully opened when I first see them in the morning. Nocturnal would also be nice to have but I would naturally want early season ones that rebloom for a long time.
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Jul 29, 2016 3:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Garden Photography Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Europe Lilies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thanks so much DND! If it wasn't open by 6 PM it ... does it mean it's nocturnal? Because I often can tell what bloom will open the next day..but my DLs aren't nocturnal.

According to my habits all of mine are EMOs Hilarious! for when I get up the blooms are already open Hilarious!
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info
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Jul 29, 2016 3:18 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
Butterflies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Sages Plant Identifier
Nocturnal can open the previous evening as in the registration instructions I gave earlier:

"Nocturnal (noc.)
These are daylilies which open in the late afternoon or early evening and remain open all night and close the following day."

Larry's EMO link from the Daylily Dictionary says the same thing:

"Some nocturnal daylilies be mistaken for EMO's but their flowers actually open the evening before and are open all night."

EMO isn't a registration term whereas nocturnal is. It could open after 6pm and still be nocturnal. If it opened after midnight possibly not.
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Aug 14, 2016 4:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Garden Photography Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Europe Lilies Garden Ideas: Level 1
While I'm waiting to see if this Pardon Me is noctural or not (I don't think it will bloom for this year) I decided to gift both Passion and Style fans to my friend. I kept looking at the few pictures I found and it was not something I'd like to have in the garden.
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallis.info

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