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Aug 3, 2016 12:52 PM CST
Name: Jessie Worsham
Stockbridge, GA (Zone 8a)
Northwest Georgia Daylily Society
Cat Lover Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia Heucheras Hostas
Hybridizer Irises
Looks like I'm in 8a now, per the 2012 map. That seems accurate. Guess I need to change my profile!
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Aug 3, 2016 4:25 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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I just checked it out for kicks, and I'm not buying it. In the 60 years I've lived in this area, I've never seen it get down to 30 that I can recall.
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Aug 4, 2016 9:26 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
I pay very little attention to zones, mainly because I am in a temperate area, no matter what number it has been assigned. I can see where it becomes important to those in more extreme areas.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Sep 2, 2016 4:02 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
My beef with hardiness zones is that only say what temperature HALF of recent winters have gone down to. And the variation from year to year of the actual minimum temp can be 10, 20 or more degrees.
I want to know what temperature we stay above 90% of the time, or 95%.

Why would people plant things that will be killed in HALF of all winters? They only have a 1/4 chance of lasting two years.

Or is there some implied "fudge factor" used when quoting "winter hardiness zone" for a plant? Like listing a zone 20 degrees warmer than will REALLY kill it? So that each winter only has a 50% chance of getting within 20 degrees of killing it?

And all that still ignores the difference between a brief extra-cold dip in the middle of a cold winter, vs. a "sudden death cold snap" in late fall, where temps drop overnight from "balmy" to "average winter low". Lack of vernalization kills more things than some absolute "low temperature" being reached gradually over weeks.

I guess it is still useful as a guideline (don't grow bananas outdoors in the Michigan UP).
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Sep 2, 2016 5:23 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Sunset zone are always the most useful, but even those can't help you when you get a sudden heat wave in Feb, then another one in March, and another in April. Those fry every thing in the garden. I know this from experience. Sighing!
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Sep 2, 2016 8:04 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
"I guess it is still useful as a guideline (don't grow bananas outdoors in the Michigan UP). "

Not even where I live, in the "banana belt" ?? Hilarious!
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
C/F temp conversion
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Sep 2, 2016 8:25 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Hilarious! I grew up in a "banana belt" too. Clarkston , Wa. ...a deep valley in SE Washinton, on the Idaho border. Got a bit colder in winter, but not a lot, and got hotter in summer.

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