Plant ID forum: Yellow flower, almost thistle-like

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Name: Lee Anne Stark
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threegardeners
Jul 29, 2016 4:46 PM CST
Hey there,
We've got a couple of these popping up in the garden. Haven't seen any in the wild so figure previous owners had them. No idea what they might be. Flowers start yellow then turn reddish-orange from the middle out. Very distinctive "crown" of leaves around the blooms. Thistles on leaves. Any ideas?
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 29, 2016 4:51 PM CST
Centaurea macrocephala?
Name: Lee Anne Stark
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threegardeners
Jul 29, 2016 4:54 PM CST
close, but nope, not quite.
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plantladylin
Jul 29, 2016 5:12 PM CST
My first thought was maybe Sow Thistle but I'm not sure; my eyes aren't what the used to be: http://www.wildflowersofontario.ca/sowthistle.html
Smooth Sow Thistle (Sonchus oleraceus)
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Name: Lee Anne Stark
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threegardeners
Jul 29, 2016 5:20 PM CST
I looked at that one too but no it isn't it. Thanks though!
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sooby
Jul 29, 2016 8:27 PM CST
Safflower? Dropped any birdseed? There are no pics in the database so here are Google ones:

Safflower, Carthamnus tinctorius:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=safflower+leaves&client=safar...
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jul 29, 2016 8:53 PM CST
Sure looks a lot like Safflower; check out the bud image here: https://www.google.com/search?q=carthamus+tinctorius+flower+...
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threegardeners
Jul 30, 2016 6:59 AM CST
I do believe you've both nailed it! Thank you!
Yes, we feed the birds all year.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 30, 2016 7:20 AM CST
Thumbs up Maybe you'd like to add your pictures to the database since there are none there for safflower?
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plantladylin
Jul 30, 2016 8:16 AM CST
There are a few photos in the database for Safflower (Carthamus tinctorius) but we need more ... and currently there are no good bud or leaf photos so you really should upload a few of your pic's Lee Anne!
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sooby
Jul 30, 2016 11:22 AM CST
So what did I do wrong? D'Oh! Confused I typed Carthamnus tinctorius into the database and it took me to a page for the plant but with no pictures. I just tried it again and same thing.
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plantladylin
Jul 30, 2016 12:13 PM CST
@Sooby, looks like there are duplicate entries for C. tinctorius.
Type in Carthamnus and only two show up: http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/genus/Carthamnus/
Type in Safflower and all show: http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Safflower&button=
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plantladylin
Jul 30, 2016 12:15 PM CST
The entry probably needs to be deleted since there is another entry with info and photos.

Maybe @zuzu, or @Calif_Sue can help.
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zuzu
Jul 30, 2016 12:59 PM CST

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The name of the genus is Carthamus. Those two "Carthamnus" entries were misspelled duplicates, so I deleted them.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 30, 2016 1:22 PM CST
D'Oh! again. Thanks zuzu.

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