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Aug 14, 2016 7:53 AM CST
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Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

Every other day I love walking around the house to see if anything new has bloomed.... in one area I have the candy cane zinnias planted... check out this bloom.... if I save the seeds..do you think I'll have blooms like this next year?


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Aug 14, 2016 9:27 AM CST
Name: ZenMan
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xoxomonisia said: ... check out this bloom.... if I save the seeds..do you think I'll have blooms like this next year?
Hi Monika,

A few might be. You will probably get solid colors from the solid petals and white striped petals from petals like. And a few might be "half and half" like this bloom.

ZM
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Sep 9, 2016 7:52 PM CST
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Name: My name is Monika...
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Here's a little update.....
That zinnia that I posted is going to seed, but another bloom on the same stalk is a solid color...

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Sep 10, 2016 10:33 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
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Hi Monika,

Interesting. My guess is that all the seeds from that solid red bloom would produce plants with solid red blooms. But that is just a guess. Zinnias are full of surprises. If you like striped and spotted zinnias, you might want to try some of the Peppermint Stick zinnias. They come in a variety of color combinations, not just red and white.

ZM
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Sep 25, 2016 3:47 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
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xoxomonisia said: Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

Every other day I love walking around the house to see if anything new has bloomed.... in one area I have the candy cane zinnias planted... check out this bloom.... if I save the seeds..do you think I'll have blooms like this next year?






Sure worth saving! I was happy with Pinwheel Zinnias giving me 5 colors from 4 plants in one deck pot! Can I actually save the seeds?
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Sep 25, 2016 5:02 PM CST
Name: kathy
Michigan (Zone 4b)
near St. Clair MI
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Wow! Good work .
I save a 5 gal. bucket of spent zinnia flowers; let them dry; and broadcast the seeds next year. My 100' row is full of surprises. This year my plants were 5' high - a record for me. Zone 4b, st clair michigan farm.
Kate
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Sep 25, 2016 5:19 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
So you are going back to the F1 parents? That's COOL!
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Sep 27, 2016 11:57 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
I have 2 areas of edged plantings for random flowers. I will take as many flowerheads as I can collect and sprinkle the seeds all around through both and see what happens next year.

If it works, great. If not, I will pull up the weeds and try again. Its not like anyone is coming by to criticize those spots, LOL!

EVENTUALLY, I will have a weird unorganized collection of flowers there.
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Sep 28, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Name: ZenMan
Kansas (Zone 5b)
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I save zinnia seeds over the Fall and Winter and plant zinnia beds the next Spring. This is one such bed.
Thumb of 2016-09-28/ZenMan/23d640
I also grow some zinnias indoors during the Winter. I do get a few "volunteer" zinnias from seeds that fell onto the ground and survived the Winter, but that is only a few zinnias, because most zinnia seeds don't survive being on the ground during the Winter. That would be very poor storage conditions. I try to keep my saved zinnia seeds dry and cool.
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Oct 8, 2016 9:20 PM CST
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Good luck everyone
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Oct 29, 2016 2:15 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Hi I don't grow zinnias but came over to see Zen Man's stuff. We get that different petal look in irises, known as a chimara. Not sure of the spelling on that. It is often caused by cold when the flower is forming. Does the same thing happen in zinnias ZM?
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Oct 30, 2016 1:12 AM CST
Name: ZenMan
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irisarian said:Hi I don't grow zinnias but came over to see Zen Man's stuff. We get that different petal look in irises, known as a chimara. Not sure of the spelling on that. It is often caused by cold when the flower is forming. Does the same thing happen in zinnias ZM?

Hi Lucy,

No, the cold does not seem to affect zinnia petal formation. Cooler Fall temperatures do tend to make the zinnia colors a bit more intense, though. Zinnias do not "like" cold weather, and become very susceptible to disease in cool weather. This picture of my South Zinnia Garden was taken three days ago.
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These are a couple of my breeder zinnias that I am saving seeds from.
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Our weather has been unusually warm here in east central Kansas. Last year we had a killing frost on October 30th. This year they say our killing frost will come after November 9th. That gives me a little more time to save some breeder zinnia seeds and do some cleanup in my zinnia beds.

ZM
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May 14, 2017 11:58 AM CST
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Hi everyone....i don't know about you....but I'm ready for the zinnias!!!
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May 14, 2017 12:45 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
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xoxomonisia said:Hi everyone....i don't know about you....but I'm ready for the zinnias!!!

Hi Monika,

You can always catch up on my zinnias over at

The thread "It can be fun to breed your own zinnias." in Annuals forum

My indoor zinnia project is just wrapping up as I plant seeds in-ground here in east-central Kansas. Some of my favorite indoor specimens have been the ones with fingers on their petals.
Thumb of 2017-05-14/ZenMan/cd1323 Thumb of 2017-05-14/ZenMan/954d7b
Hopefully I will get some good zinnia specimens in my outdoor zinnias.

ZM
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Aug 13, 2018 10:34 AM CST

I have a similar half and half zinnia also. Curious if xoxomonisia had luck with planting the seeds.
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Aug 13, 2018 11:31 AM CST
Name: ZenMan
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Muck104 said:I have a similar half and half zinnia also. Curious if xoxomonisia had luck with planting the seeds.

Hi Muck, Welcome! Welcome!

Welcome to the National Gardening Association. It would be interesting if you could save seeds that would produce those half-and-half zinnias. My guess is that the solid colors on each side come true solid, but there might be a few seeds on the intersection that would produce half-and-half zinnias. I suggest you give it a try with your specimen.

I have been propagating my narrow-petaled or needle-petaled zinnias in my zinnia patch.
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I grow my "breeder quality" zinnias in cages (similar to tomato cages) to give them some protection from our Kansas windstorms. I use a lot of zinnia cages, so I make them myself from concrete re-mesh wire. Again, welcome. Welcome!
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Aug 13, 2018 6:44 PM CST
Name: kathy
Michigan (Zone 4b)
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Hey, zenman; good to see your latest zinnia !
Mine were slow to start, but a doing great now.


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Aug 13, 2018 9:18 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
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Hi Kathy,

That's an interesting single zinnia. The petals have a unique shape at the end and they are spaced wide apart. That's a kind of unique flower form. I think you should save seeds from it. These are a couple more of my "weirdo" home hybridized zinnias.
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We got some much needed rain this afternoon.

ZM
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May 18, 2019 3:16 AM CST
Name: ellenr
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7a)
@Zenman,
wow. these zinnias are new to me.
Could you tell me the names?
thanks
ellen

ZenMan said:
Hi Lucy,

No, the cold does not seem to affect zinnia petal formation. Cooler Fall temperatures do tend to make the zinnia colors a bit more intense, though. Zinnias do not "like" cold weather, and become very susceptible to disease in cool weather. This picture of my South Zinnia Garden was taken three days ago.
Thumb of 2016-10-30/ZenMan/f5aace
These are a couple of my breeder zinnias that I am saving seeds from.
Uploaded by ZenMan
Uploaded by ZenMan

Our weather has been unusually warm here in east central Kansas. Last year we had a killing frost on October 30th. This year they say our killing frost will come after November 9th. That gives me a little more time to save some breeder zinnia seeds and do some cleanup in my zinnia beds.

ZM
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May 18, 2019 3:19 AM CST
Name: ellenr
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7a)
Beautiful!

Did you just scatter seeds to get this?
I love the close up look.
Seed packages say 12 inches apart. But I just sowed seeds a few inches apart.
It doesn't look like you get any fungus problem.

ellen


ZenMan said:I save zinnia seeds over the Fall and Winter and plant zinnia beds the next Spring. This is one such bed.
Thumb of 2016-09-28/ZenMan/23d640
I also grow some zinnias indoors during the Winter. I do get a few "volunteer" zinnias from seeds that fell onto the ground and survived the Winter, but that is only a few zinnias, because most zinnia seeds don't survive being on the ground during the Winter. That would be very poor storage conditions. I try to keep my saved zinnia seeds dry and cool.

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