Vegetables and Fruit forum: Wild Muscadine harvest (Vitis rotundifolia)

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Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 4, 2016 9:40 PM CST
I've been harvesting Muscadines for the past 3 weeks now and they are starting to come to an end. I figured I'd share photos from today's harvest before they are all gone.







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Name: Thomas
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Thomas75
Sep 5, 2016 1:53 AM CST
ediblelandscapingsc said:I've been harvesting Muscadines for the past 3 weeks now and they are starting to come to an end. I figured I'd share photos from today's harvest before they are all gone.









Daniel I hope you harvested enough to make some home made wine.
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Weedhopper
Sep 5, 2016 4:10 AM CST
Mine haven't did well for the last 2years but seem to be much more abundant this season I'm really glad to see them bouncing back they fell off green last year . dry weather was my reasoning any ideas? Shrug! I have 15 acres half woods half pasture and vines are plentiful in my woods but critters are too any advice on transplanting young ones?
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Name: Thomas
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Thomas75
Sep 5, 2016 7:59 AM CST
Welcome @Weedhopper

Muscadines / grapes require a lot of water and your low production during the dry period is most likely the cause. Transplanting is normally fairly easy but it must be done correctly. I have transplanted several vines in the past with 100% success. Be sure and transplant both the male and female vines if these are native plants. There might be someone here in the Forum that can give you step by step instructions, or I might suggest that you go to a vineyard website that explains how to handle Muscadines. Muscadines are different from "regular" grapes. Good luck with the transplanting.

As far as keeping critters away from the fruit, you could cover some of the vines with some netting. It is fairly inexpensive and easy to apply. A plastic barrier fence on either side of the vines is also an effective method for ground critters but not the birds.

Again Welcome!
Thomas75
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 5, 2016 9:18 AM CST
No wine this year we try to make a few gallons every year but me and the kids have been eating them as fast as I harvest them. I'm not a drinker but I love the fruity flavor of some homemade Muscadine and blackberry wine both.
Weedhopper I agree with Thomas water is the key to a good harvest even on wild vines. Wait until the plants are dormant before transplanting. Since you will be damaging some roots in the process they won't be able to provide as much water to the vine as before they where dug up. Pruning 1/3 of the vine back or more will give them a better chance to survive and get established.
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Name: Thomas
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Thomas75
Sep 5, 2016 11:00 AM CST
Hey again @Weedhopper

I forgot to mention that you can take cuttings and get them to root and then plant them where ever you wish. A neighbor and I traded each other some cuttings one year. When the vines were blooming I marked the male and female vines with plastic ties and then that Fall made several select cuts from each vine and the neighbor did the same. I use some Root Stimulator ( liquid ) in the bucket of water that I had the cuttings and come early Spring the bucket was full of roots. I planted these intermixed with my existing vines and ever vine produced more blooms each year for about 5 years. Heavy production from all of the vines. Hope this will help. nodding
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Name: Thomas
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Thomas75
Sep 5, 2016 11:09 AM CST
I agree with you Daniel @ediblelandscapingsc that there is nothing better tasting than some home made Muscadine wine. My neighbor and I used to make over 100 gallons each year and we always had plenty of volunteer help because they all knew, to get free wine you have to help. Thumbs up
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 5, 2016 2:38 PM CST
@Thomas75 I've never had any luck rooting muscadine cuttings or grafting any. I've rooted some vitis hybrids cuttings this year and successfully grafted several vitis vinifera on on 3309C and 101-14 rootstocks. I find muscadines are easier to layer than root or graft. Did you use dormant cuttings or cuttings from actively growing vines? All my cuttings I've tried have been dormant cuttings and quickly die after leafing out. I've tried cuttings placed in high humidity and without. I've tried them in potting soil, just sand, and just perlite but nothing has worked. I've also tried both gel and powder rooting hormone and still no results. I gave up on rooting them because of the aggravation but layering the plants are a breeze. just lay a vine on the ground and cover with potting soil then cover that with mulch in a few months you'll have tons of roots. and can just come in and snip them off and have new plants for your garden.
I also trade a bunch of plant material every winter. Do you know how to graft? If you ever want to swap some scion wood or cuttings of named plants please let me know. I'm good on muscadines but would love to hear what else you grow. Feel free to tree mail if you are interested in working something out this winter. I have a list of everything I grow and would be happy to share that with you.
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Name: Thomas
Deep East Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Butterflies Vegetable Grower Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Greenhouse
Farmer Birds Bee Lover Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Thomas75
Sep 5, 2016 3:50 PM CST
@ediblelandscapingsc just sent you a tree mail,
Thanks
Thomas75
SE Tennessee
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Weedhopper
Sep 6, 2016 5:15 AM CST
Thanks y'all I'm planning to relocate some to lower ground Thank You!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 6, 2016 2:28 PM CST
@Weedhopper I forgot to say welcome to garden.org. Good luck relocating your plants and please keep us updated. Do you grow and named fruit trees, bushes, or vines?
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Weedhopper
Sep 7, 2016 11:45 AM CST
Thanks again y'all my land is 7 acres pasture and 8 acres wooded the woods are on a steep hill and the vines are plentiful but don't do well think they will do better in my flat back yard Thank You!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 7, 2016 7:22 PM CST
I have steep hills on my land too but only have 5.5 acres. It doesn't make the best land for gardening but you use what you got.
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