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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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Kabby
Sep 8, 2016 7:01 PM CST
like I need another hole in my head. I'm in the process of admiring gigantic hostas and looking at all the King Kong sized clematis I can find. Jurassic sized hardy hibiscus, dinner plate dahlias. Truly this has nothing to do with the Big Jerry bed, there's not an ounce of real estate left there.
I dabble in hostas, I have several minis in containers but now I want monsters. I have no experience with clematis but I want some. How do they do down here?
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Sep 9, 2016 7:05 AM CST
Clematis seem easy in middle GA. I grow them in the Sandhills with no supplemental water.... So.... Drought proof...

Y'all get considerable more rain than we do, but probably not enuff to drown em.

Post some pics of your hibiscus...
I have hibiscus grandiflorus, but it's only bloomed once in my garden... Does considerable better in town in the clay... Personally... If it ain't food, really can't spare the water. Although.... I am experimenting with pond liners and rigid pools.... And.... Planting next to the overhang....

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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
Region: United States of America Region: Alabama Plant and/or Seed Trader Dog Lover Birds Hummingbirder
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Kabby
Sep 9, 2016 8:35 PM CST
Stone I only have the one hibiscus so far and that's Peppermint Schnapps. I had posted it to the August flowers section.
I have ordered my clematis, I chose to receive them in late March instead of middle Oct. They will be my first, I'm looking forward to growing them.
I will start digging daylilies soon to make a shade bed. Larry my new Confederate rose will provide more shade for this area and I'll plant my new hostas and heuchera there. And maybe a fern or two from the wetlands across the street. Rolling my eyes.
The cool is invigorating in the am, I need a prioritized to do list!
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 11, 2016 6:03 AM CST
Kabby,
I looked back in my photos and showed that the cutting I took had blooms in early October, so in just a few weeks, maybe a month you should be seeing some blooms on your Confederate rose.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Sep 12, 2016 6:45 AM CST
Kabby said:Stone I only have the one hibiscus so far and that's Peppermint Schnapps. I had posted it to the August flowers section.
I have ordered my clematis, I chose to receive them in late March instead of middle Oct. They will be my first, I'm looking forward to growing them.

Only one?
Hmmm....
I have white and red Texas swamp hibiscus.... I recommend....
I have virginia costal mallow... Also recommend.
And also hibiscus aculata... Highly recommend. Drought proof.

All 4 grow easily from seed planted in Spring.

Also.... Try rose of Sharon!
I prefer the single blooms.... As do the butterflies and hummingbirds.... But they are seedy, and have tons of babies in an irrigated garden... But zero reproduction at my house....
The doubles are easily grown from cuttings.... I've rescued clippings from people's burn piles... Brought them home and planted them and gotten good results...

I have not had good luck with spring planting clematis. It's too hot too quick for that.

And worse... When clients order plants that get shipped in the spring.... It's generally wasted money.... Those companies insist on shipping too late! Even when the lady calls repeatedly telling the company reps that we need the plants in Feb.... That we're experiencing 90s in April.... The companies still want to wait till May!


Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 12, 2016 7:04 AM CST
Kabby you can't go wrong with edibles. Thumbs up my collection of figs and pomegranates keep on growing even though I said I had enough 2 years ago. I also keep on adding other fruiting plants every spring, here is what I have so far.

Plant Size
(RC) rooted cutting (S) small (M) medium
(L) large (VL) very large

Fig varieties
A
Aboukounis Black (S)
Acciano (RC)
Alma (L)
Alex light (S)
Amber (L)
Art's unknown white (S)
Asurup Denmark (S)

B
Bardacik (S)
Bella (M)
Biancchuce (S)
Bifara (RC)
Big white Greece Unknown (S)
Binello (S)
Bisirri Light (RC)
Black Greek (S)
Black Greece Unknown (S)
Black Ischia (M) Fake?
Black Mission (M)
Black Mission Gill (M)
Black Mission Applejack (M)
Black of Marseille "Marseille France" (RC)
Black Yugoslavian (M)
Blue Celeste (L)
Bo Ja Hung (M)
Bourjassotte Grise (L)
Brite Dame (S)
Brogiotto Nero (S)
Brooklyn Dark (L)
Brooklyn White (S)
Brown Turkey (M)
Brown Turkey Gill's strain (S)
Bryant Dark (S)
Brunswick (L)
Bugistoa (RC)

C
Cali Yellow Unknown (M)
Carini (L)
Carini Frank in VA strain (S)
Celeste (VL)
Celeste Dark (L)
Chiappetta (S)
Conadria (RC)
Col de Dame Blanc (S)
Col de Dam Spain (RC)
Coll de Senyora (RC)
Cucumber (S)

D
Danny's Delight (M)
Dark Red Italian Unknown (M)
Dark Aespecte KRMK (M)
Di Redo (RC)
Doree (S)
Donna's TX Plum Fig (M)

E
Egyptian (VL)
Easley unknown (RC)

F
Feng Chan Huang (M)
Fertility (M)
Fico Negra (M)
Fiorone Di Ruvo (S)
Frakansa? (S)
FTF Unknown (L)

G
Gillette (M)
Gill's Tasty Unknown(S)
Green Purple Gold unknown (M)
Grosse monstrueuse De Lipari (RC)

H
Havasu Purple "not hanna as stated last year"(S)
Hardy Chicago (VL)
Hollier (S)
Hungarian Brown Plate (S)
Hunt (M)

I
Ice Crystal (M)
Improved Celeste (S)
Iserial unknown #1 "may need wasp" (L)
Iserial unknown #2 "may need wasp" (L)
Iserial unknown #3 "may need wasp" (M)
Iserial unknown #4 "may need wasp" (M)
Ischia White (S)
Italian Everbering (M)
Italian Honey (M)
Italian Long Green (S)
Italian White Unknown(S)
Italian yellow unknown M.Vinkle (S)

J
JH Adriatic (S)
Jin Ao Fen (M)
Jumbo Portuguese (M)

K
Kathleen's Black (RC)

L
Lattarula "pink center" (S)
Lattarula "gold center" (M)
Larme de Jaune (L)
Lemon (L)
LSU Gold (M)
LSU Purple (L)
LSU Tiger (S)
Lyndhurst White (S)

M
Macool (RC)
Masslyn Edible Variant (S)
Malta Purple Red (S)
Marseilles (L)
Marseilles VS Black (VL)
Marlane Seedless (L)
Milco (RC)
Monstrueuse (L)

N
Naples white (M)
Natalina (S)
NC Dark (M)
Negronne (M)
Neverella (RC)
Nihonshu (S)
Nuhurakii (L)

P
Palestine (M)
Papa (M)
Patlican Large "Marseille France" (RC)
Patlican small "Marseille France" (RC)
PawPaw's Turkey (VL)
Peters honey (M)
Petite Aubique (RC)
Pied de Boeuf (M)
Portuguese Dark unknown (S)
Portuguese Dark NY (S)
Portuguese light brown (S)
Purple Lebanon (S)

R
Rigo's Jupiter Unknown (M)
Red italian franks strain (VL)
Rouge De Bordeaux (M)
Russian Light Brown (M)
Russian Brown (M)

S
Salce (M)
Salem White (M)
Sal's El (L)
Sal's Corleone (M)
Santa Cruz White (RC)
Si Emma (VL)
Sicilian light brown (M)
Sicilian Red (S)
Sicilian #2 (M)
Stella (S)
St Rita (RC)
Skardu Black (S)
Stanford (RC)

T
Tacoma Violet (S)
Takoma Violet (S)
Taretella (M)
Tilsbury Turkey (S)
Tim Clymer Enola Italian #1 (L)
TX Everbearing (M)
TX Unknown "?Brunswick?" (M)
Troiano Calabese (RC)
Turkish Black (S)
Turkish Purple (S)

U
UCR K-6-5 (RC)
UCR K-7-4 (RC)
UCR K-7-11 (RC)
UCR 135-155 (RC)
UCR 143-5 (RC)
UCR 143-36 (RC)
UCR 150-60 (RC)
UCR 152-4S (RC)
UCR 171-59 (RC)
UCR 200-43 (RC)
UCR 291 (RC)
UCR 291-4 (RC)
UCR 309 B-1 (RC)
UCR 333-1 (RC)

V
Valle Negra (RC)
Valerio #1 (RC)
Valerio #2 (RC)
Verdal Longue (S)
Violette de Bordeaux (L)
Violette Sollies (M)

W
Winedale (L)
White Parodiso (S)
Wuhan (M)

X
XL (M)

Y
Yellow Neches (RC)

#'s
311-B (L)

Everything from here down has been updated this year 2016

Pomegranate Varieties

Afganski (M)
Agat (S)
Al Sirin Nar (S)
Apseronski(S)
Ariana (S)
Ambrerosia (S)
Andalib (S)
Azadi (RC)
Bale Gal (RC)
Balkan (S)
Blaze (RC)
Cana (S)
Carb (S)
Crab (RC)
Dashistan (S)
Desertnyi (S)
Doth Legfelle (RC)
Elf (S)
EVE (L)
Eversweet (RC)
Fleichman (S)
Gissarskii Alyi (S)
Gissaiskii Rozovyi (RC)
Girkanets (S)
Gold (S)
Golden Globe (S)
Green Globe (S)
Haku-Botan (M)
How sweet it is (S)
Hotuni Zigar (RC)
Kaim-Anor (L)
Kandahari seedling (S)
Kara- Kalinski (L)
Kara Gul (S)
Kazake (M)
Kemine (S)
Kemino (RC)
Khranniy ((RC)
Kopetdag (S)
Kunduzki (M)
Kzy Bibi (S)
Loffani (S)
Lou Lou (RC)
Lyubimyi (RC)
Mae (RC)
Mahall Dezful (S)
Molla-Nepes (M)
Myatadzhy (S)
Nisa (RC)
Nusai (S)
Orange (S)
Ovadan (S)
Palermo (RC)
Paryanka (S)
Parfyanka (S)
Phoenicia (S)
Podarok (S)
Pink Lebanon (M)
Purple Heart (S)
Red Silk (RC)
Rosamia (RC)
Russian #1 (M)
Russian #2 (S)
Russian #3 (M)
Saariziki (RC)
Saartuzki (L)
Sakerdze (M)
Salavatski (S)
Seidi (S)
Sirenevyi (RC)
Shainaskii (RC)
Shirin Zigar (S)
Sogdiana (S)
Sour (S)
Sumbar (M)
Sumbarskii (S)
Turan (S)
Vina (RC)
Vishnevyi (RC)

Thornless Blackberries
Apache (L)
Arapaho (L)
Natchez (L)
Navaho (L)
Ouachita (L)
Von (L)

Pears
MoonGlow (L)
Kieffer (L)
Orient (L)
Shinseiki Asian (L)

Persimmons
Diospyros Kaki
Matsumoto Wase (S)
Maru (S)
Chocolate (S)
Coffeecake (S)
fuyu (S)
Hana fuyu (S)
Jiro (S)
Matsumoto (S)
Suruga (S)
Fuji (S)
Gofu (S)
Jiro (S)
Large Fuyu (S)

Persimmons
D. Kaki x D. Virginiana hybrid
nikitas gifts (M)
rosseyanka (M)
keener (S)

Persimmons
Diospyros Virginiana
yates (L)
prok (M)
Dollywood (M)
Early Golden (L)

Peach Varieties
Hale haven (L)
Bonfire Dwarf (S)

Plum Varieties

Melthy (L)
Seedling chickasaw (L)
Green Gage (M)

Elderberry varieties

Sampo (L)
Johns (L)
Nova (M)

Blueberry varieties

Pink lemonade (L)
Chandler (S)
kabluey (M)
Vaccinium fuscatum (L)

Mulberry varieties
Shangri la (L)
Pakistan (S)
Exotica (M)
Illinois Everbearing (S)
Wild from Charleston SC (S)
Wild from Catawba SC (S)

Kiwi
Anna (M)
74-32 (M)
Actinidia polygama Pavel ™ Male (M)
Actinidia polygama Vera’s Pride™ Female (M)
OPITZ (M)
Cordifelia (M)
Red Princess (S)
Melanandra (RC)
Purpurne Sodowo (RC)
Super Jumbo (RC)
Rote Potsdamon (RC)
Hardy Red (RC)
Fresh Jumbo (RC)
Cherry Bomb (RC)
Jumbo (RC)

Vitis rotundifolia
Fry
Wild

Odds and ends

Crataegus opaca - Big Red
Passiflora incarnata
Prunus avium 'Black Tartarian'
Citrus trifoliata
Citrus trifoliata flying dragon
Jujube Rootstock/seedlings
Pecan Rootstock/seedlings
Diospyros lotus Rootstock/seedlings
Diospyros Virginiana Rootstock/seedlings
Blight resistant Hazelnut seedlings
Nanking cherries
variegated strawberries
and a few grapes
🌿A weed is a plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered🌿
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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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Kabby
Sep 12, 2016 9:36 AM CST
@stone I actually received the hibiscus as an unexpected gift. I got a lot of plants that I didn't ask for, she is a great trader. She was determined to pack that box.
Rose of Sharon, nah. It does nothing for me. I think it's because my mom grew it and it always had aphids. I think I have Texas Star on my want list. Blinking
I have found that if I receive my plants in April, trades or buys, they pretty much do okay. May is iffy and June you better pot it and put it in the shade. What kinda clematis ya got?

Daniel, how can you have a family taking care of all that? And you waited until the very last to say you have grapes. I was thinking where are the muscadines and scuppernongs? Hey y'all want to know what auto correct made out of scuppernongs? Supernova...
Well my friend you need NO more addictions. I am amazed and maybe a little scared. Crying
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Sep 12, 2016 11:16 AM CST
Kabby said:I think I have Texas Star on my want list.
I have found that if I receive my plants in April, trades or buys, they pretty much do okay. May is iffy and June you better pot it and put it in the shade. What kinda Clematis you got?

These ones....
The purple is one that sent out new sprouts from the roots in someone else's garden.... I dug some.
The white is that invasive summer clematis that everyone has (whether they want it or not).
Thumb of 2016-09-12/stone/034293 Thumb of 2016-09-12/stone/305e6c

I'd rather talk about hibiscus....
Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
Region: United States of America Region: Alabama Plant and/or Seed Trader Dog Lover Birds Hummingbirder
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Kabby
Sep 12, 2016 10:04 PM CST
The purple and pink one is beautiful, and a freebie!

Not knowing much about hibiscus I am finding out that the gorgeous ones are tropical not hardy. Can't have it all.
However stone, okra has hibiscus flowers and you wouldn't be wasting water as it is food. And you really have to have a lot of plants to make a mess of them.

I find it amazing your kittens eat your veggies. Shrug!
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Sep 13, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Hibiscus aculeatus has the same flower (mostly) as okra, and doesn't need watering or picking.... and grows in the shade!
I'm not a fan of okra...

I'm not a fan of tropicals... don't have the room in the house.... but there are a ton of neat hibiscus that grow fine in the south.

Don't you have cats?

Outside cats eat a lot more than the rodents and birds and lizards... I get a kick out of those ads for cat food with no corn in them... cats actually like corn! I don't even have to cook it for them.

Got to have cats in the garden to catch the rats, and voles... and rabbits.
If i could only teach them to leave the birds, lizards, snakes, butterflies alone...
Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
Region: United States of America Region: Alabama Plant and/or Seed Trader Dog Lover Birds Hummingbirder
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Kabby
Sep 14, 2016 7:49 PM CST
Not a fan of okra! Blasphemy of the SE forum! 😱😱Well honestly I can say I never had a raw tomato until I met DH. I know, also sacrilege.

I saw your kitten eating corn, that was more amazing to me than the one eating watermelon. I don't have cats anymore, I have to settle for visiting with my sister or son to get my kitty lovin'. And I love your calico avatar, I have a weakness for calico and tuxedo cats.

I love tropicals but not anything that I have to bring inside for the winter. I dragged a potted plumeria up and down my stairs for 3 yrs, I finally let it meet it's demise. Hurray!

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