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Oct 26, 2011 6:31 PM CST
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Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
I'm noticing these weirdly placed question marks in a lot of entries. What is their purpose?
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Oct 26, 2011 6:39 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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I see that, Lee Anne. It might have to do with your character encoding choice. I have mine set to Unicode because I use Cyrillic half of the time, and I see the question marks in some entries. When I set the coding to Western, the question marks disappear.
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Oct 26, 2011 6:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
How do I change that?
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Oct 26, 2011 6:45 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
On my computer, I click on "view," click on "character encoding," and choose "Western." If you already have Western, then that's not the reason you're seeing them.
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Oct 26, 2011 6:47 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
nice try!
I changed it to Western and am still seeing the question mark...even remembered the shift-refresh thing.
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Oct 26, 2011 6:50 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I haven't noticed question marks like that and didn't have a clue about "character encoding" so went searching after reading Zuzu's post and see that mine is listed as text encoding and it's set on default whatever that means. It's the first at the top of the list with a check mark next to the word Default, next says Western (ISO Latin I) and then Western (Mac OS Roman). Whistling LOL, I thought I'd play around and change it to see what happens but I guess I better leave it alone or I might really mess things up and then have to have someone tell me how to get back to where it should be. Hilarious!
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Oct 26, 2011 6:52 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
Hmmm... Then I'm stumped. Sorry.
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Oct 26, 2011 7:02 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
Well, I just tried it on IE and over there the thing's called just plain "encoding" and it's set to "Auto-select" and "Unicode." On IE I see a little box instead of a question mark. It seems to be a response to the "apostrophe-s-hyphen" sequence because it only appears in names saying "lady's-slipper" and doesn't appear in the other entry on the search page saying "Lady's Slipper." It goes away when I switch to "Western."
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Oct 26, 2011 7:05 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Zuzu is on the right track here, but those special characters are bugs that should be edited out. If you see them, considering submitting a "Edit plant name" proposal. The presence of such a character mark will completely empty out that field, so you have to remember what the name was and re-type the whole thing.

These are artifacts from when I transferred the database from cubits over to ATP and as we find them and fix them, they will eventually all be gone and this won't be an issue anymore.
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Oct 26, 2011 7:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
ok...so it is the apostrophe-s-hyphen thing?

If so we could just copy the whole name then paste it into the new edit, backspacing the hyphen out...no?
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Oct 26, 2011 7:11 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Right indeed.
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Oct 26, 2011 7:13 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Good thinking Lee Anne.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Oct 26, 2011 7:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
hehehe...only because I know I could never remember some of those names in the database!!
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Oct 26, 2011 7:17 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Necessity is the mother of invention.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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