Plant ID forum: Sida sp. from Brazil

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Nov 9, 2011 3:17 AM CST
This is another very tough one Big Grin
They were growing in a clearing by the rainforest along an earth path..Paraty
I found out they had to be Sida species (Malvaceae), but cannot get further than that, the 'Flora do Brasil' gives over 80 species native
http://floradobrasil.jbrj.gov.br/2010/index?mode=1&group=Flo...
the Flora SBS has 4 species in its database with pictures, none of these really match.

https:/sites.google.com/site/florasbs/system/app/pages/search?scope=search-site&q=sida
For one or another reason I cannot make the last link work..


I have googled all possible Sida pictures, many look-a-likes but I didn't find any that has these red filaments in the centre of the flowers

These were from another date..

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Nov 9, 2011 8:36 AM CST
Let's start by putting a list..


Malvaceae Sida abutifolia Mill.
Malvaceae Sida acuta Burm.f.
Malvaceae Sida aggregata C.Presl
Malvaceae Sida angustissima A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida anomala A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida arboae Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida ascendens A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida aurantiaca A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida blepharoprion Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida brachystemon DC.
Malvaceae Sida brittoni León
Malvaceae Sida castanocarpa Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida caudata A.St.-Hil. & Naudin
Malvaceae Sida caulorrhiza Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida cearensis Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida centuriata Clemente
Malvaceae Sida cerradoensis Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida chapadensis K.Schum.
Malvaceae Sida coradinii Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida cordifolia L.

Malvaceae Sida emilei Hochr.
Malvaceae Sida ferrucciana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida galheirensis Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida gertiana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida glaziovii K.Schum.
Malvaceae Sida glomerata Cav.
Malvaceae Sida glutinosa Comm. ex Cav.
Malvaceae Sida goyazensis K.Schum.
Malvaceae Sida gracillima Hassl.
Malvaceae Sida harleyi Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida hatschbachii Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida honoriana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida itaparicana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida jussiaeana DC.
Malvaceae Sida laciniata Bovini
Malvaceae Sida leitaofilhoi Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida linearifolia A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida linifolia Cav.
Malvaceae Sida lonchitis A.St.-Hil. & Naudin
Malvaceae Sida luschnathiana Steud.
Malvaceae Sida macaibae Mont.
Malvaceae Sida macropetala Mont.
Malvaceae Sida marabaensis Mont.
Malvaceae Sida martiana A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida meloana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida meridiana Fryxell
Malvaceae Sida monteiroi Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida multicrena Hochr.
Malvaceae Sida nemorensis Mart. ex Colla
Malvaceae Sida paradoxa Rodrigo
Malvaceae Sida petropolitana Mont.
Malvaceae Sida pires-blackii Mont.
Malvaceae Sida planicaulis Cav.
Malvaceae Sida plumosa Cav.
Malvaceae Sida potentilloides A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida pseudo-potentilloides Mont.
Malvaceae Sida pseudorubifolia Krapov. & Bueno
Malvaceae Sida regnellii R.E.Fr.
Malvaceae Sida reitzii Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida rhombifolia L.
Malvaceae Sida rhombifolia var. canariensis (Willd.) Griseb.
Malvaceae Sida rhombifolia L. var. rhombifolia
Malvaceae Sida rivulicola Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida rubifolia A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida rufescens A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida rupicola Hassl.
Malvaceae Sida salviifolia C.Presl
Malvaceae Sida sampaiana Mont.
Malvaceae Sida santaremensis Mont.
Malvaceae Sida schumanniana Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida serrata Willd. ex Spreng.
Malvaceae Sida serrata var. abscissa K.Schum.
Malvaceae Sida serrata Willd. ex Spreng. var. serrata
Malvaceae Sida setosa Mart.
Malvaceae Sida simpsonii Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida spinosa L.
Malvaceae Sida subcuneata A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida surumuensis Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida teresinensis Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida tuberculata R.E.Fr.
Malvaceae Sida uchoae Mont.
Malvaceae Sida ulei Ulbr.
Malvaceae Sida ulmifolia Mill.
Malvaceae Sida urens L.
Malvaceae Sida vallsii Krapov.
Malvaceae Sida viarum A.St.-Hil.
Malvaceae Sida xavierii Mont.

Sida rhombifolia foliage looks close, and flowers have the red parts to the anthers but I'm not sure about the petal shape..

http://src.sfasu.edu/~jvk/PineywoodsPlants/Eudicotyledons/Ma...

There seems to be variation in both leaves and flowers, I'm trying to look only at scientific sites..

http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Sida_rhombifolia.htm

http://www.tropicos.org/ImageSearch.aspx

I found a photo of Sida rhombifolia on an Argetina site which is richer in colour but does show signs of the red parts in the anthers. It could be that yours was at a later stage as there's not much pollen showing.. it has a very upright habit.


http://www.floraargentina.edu.ar/detalleespecie.asp?forma=&v...

I found this site when looking for the yellow flowered tree, you can search for families then species. I was checking those which are in both Brazil and Argentina, they are not far apart!

http://www.floraargentina.edu.ar/generos.asp?genus=Sida




Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Nov 9, 2011 12:21 PM CST
The pics on the first link show S.rhombifolia with these red filaments, plus one of the pictures of the site of the floraargentina And it is also native in Brazil! I had put Sida rhombifolia as a possible candidate in my folder, because the leaves and growth habit corresponds, I only doubted because of the lacking of these red filaments..It could be that mine were in a later stage...
I didn't find the pictures that you found though..

I really have the feeling this is the one, noooo I am sure! Hilarious!
That you are a crack is underestimated! Thanks so much Janet! Hurray!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
Butterflies Birds Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Spiders!
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JRsbugs
Nov 9, 2011 12:42 PM CST
The leaves on yours have the two different shapes too Myriam, with the narrower leaves nearest the flower. Crack heroine? Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Nov 9, 2011 12:55 PM CST
Hilarious! yes, Janet, it does fit in all senses!

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