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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 1, 2011 6:39 PM CST
I'm still looking for that study I read. BUT ---- ran across this --- it makes for some interesting reading. Read all the posts. If I understand correctly they have even been documented overwintering in Pennsylvania.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/439743/thread/1266496159/Over...
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 1, 2011 6:40 PM CST
And here's another link to some interesting overwintering info.

http://www.rubythroat.org/QuestionsOverwintering01.html
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Dec 1, 2011 6:57 PM CST
LOL- as much as I believe in "nature's way", I admit it would be difficult to just let the little bird fend for itself in freezing temps. Ah well.
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 1, 2011 7:05 PM CST
Sheryl, Something I saw said researchers believe it's due to the "global warming" thing why they are overwintering more than before.

Here's another link. I'm getting closer to finding that study because I remember this site associated with it somehow. Drat it all --- some time ago I lost all my bookmarks & that's where all this info. was ......Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Anyway, this is good:

http://www.hummingbirdresearch.net/

I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Dec 1, 2011 8:47 PM CST
Probably true, but it seems like with the variance in temps that it would still bring them down if they hadn't adapted in some way.

The times they are a-changin' ....
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 1, 2011 9:26 PM CST
Yes, I agree

and maybe it has something to do with more people hanging feeders

and maybe it has always been this way but now with computers zapping info. around the world in a nano second more people (& researchers) are being made aware of it

and maybe it's because there are greater #'s of seniors than ever before who sit around watching & notice nature things

and maybe it's any of these things you & I mentioned & maybe it's none & maybe these things have been considered in the research & perhaps not

and maybe i'm NUTZ! Rolling on the floor laughing
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Dec 2, 2011 4:32 AM CST
I was going to say I agree but not to the statement about you being nuts. Inquiring minds want to know. Green Grin!

Interesting links.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 2, 2011 5:49 AM CST
Big Grin
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Dec 2, 2011 8:19 AM CST
Maybe.... maybe not... Green Grin!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Dec 2, 2011 8:20 AM CST
I'm afraid to ask. Green Grin! Green Grin!
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 2, 2011 9:15 AM CST
Whistling
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 3, 2011 6:31 AM CST
Hee-hee! I finally found it!


http://www.nwf.org/News-and-Magazines/National-Wildlife/Bird...
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Cherish today
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar
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SongofJoy
Dec 3, 2011 6:32 AM CST
Thanks, Ann. I knew you would. Green Grin!
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 3, 2011 6:33 AM CST
Note that it says even South Carolina! These people have a regular crew. Amazing.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Southwest Gardening Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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sheryl
Dec 3, 2011 10:15 AM CST
I find this to be really fascinating. Thanks much, Ann!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 3, 2011 1:30 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. YVW!

I just Lovey dubby those little hummers!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 3, 2011 1:49 PM CST
Now, how do you suppose we can let more people know about this so they will put/keep their feeders out? I imagine a lot of people will not read this thread because they will think to themselves, "Well, hummingbirds don't overwinter where I live".
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Cherish today
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar
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SongofJoy
Dec 3, 2011 1:55 PM CST
Gosh, I hope that wasn't the message I conveyed in my article. Blinking Crying
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 3, 2011 2:01 PM CST
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, not at ALL! And I didn't mean to imply that Tee. In fact, I was just thinking...... why don't you do an article on the overwintering hummingbirds? THAT would get the message out! Need to tile it something really catchy though that makes people realize they just might have hummers overwintering at their house.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Cherish today
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar
Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Cat Lover Avid Green Pages Reviewer Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Birds
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SongofJoy
Dec 3, 2011 2:24 PM CST
Oh good, thought I might have sent a confusing message about hummers that I needed to correct. I'll pass the suggestion on to Sharon. In the meantime why don't you go over to the old article and post a comment with that link in it? It's a start for anyone who comes onto the site and might read that article. I'd appreciate it. Rolling my eyes. Green Grin!
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller

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