Plant ID forum: Lemon Bee Balm (Monarda citriodora); Texas Wildflower

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Name: Jenn Capestany
Trenton, TX (Zone 8a)
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Jenn
Dec 2, 2011 6:55 PM CST
Does anyone recognize this flower? It grows wild here in North Texas. No one around here can tell me what it is! It's so pretty too.

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JRsbugs
Dec 2, 2011 7:15 PM CST
It's in Lamiaceae, and it looks like a Monarda sp.

http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Plant_Families/Lamiacea...

Now to find which one!

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JRsbugs
Dec 2, 2011 7:16 PM CST
Monarda citriodora looks close..

http://www.wildflowerhunter.net/Wildflowers/Texas/Texas-Wild...

http://www.mexicohorse.com/wildflower_study.htm

http://alabamaplants.com/Pinkopp/Monarda_citriodora_page.htm...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bronpraslicka/3540597045/
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Dec 2, 2011 8:03 PM CST

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It's beautiful. I'm in East Texas and have never seen those in our area, unfortunately. I wish we did!
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plantladylin
Dec 2, 2011 8:52 PM CST
I think M. citriodora looks closest too: http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=MOCI
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Name: Jenn Capestany
Trenton, TX (Zone 8a)
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Jenn
Dec 2, 2011 10:19 PM CST
Looking at all the images, Monarda citriodora looks exactly right. Horsemint! I wish I knew to type that or monarda or bee balm into Google. Thank you all so much! I've been wondering for years. It's even edible! Unbelievable how many people around here dump chemicals on this and all the other edible (and pretty) natives and replace them with water sucking lawns that you can't eat. Go figure.
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JRsbugs
Dec 3, 2011 7:13 AM CST
Jenn, I agree, the modern mindset is way off the mark!

Maybe you could collect some seed to send to Dave? It is very pretty, much nicer than most human made hybrids! Bees and other insects always prefer the species too, they have after all adapted to them over many thousands of years.
Name: Jenn Capestany
Trenton, TX (Zone 8a)
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Jenn
Dec 3, 2011 4:30 PM CST
I certainly can. Looking forward to seeing them again in the warm seasons!
Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Dec 4, 2011 1:57 PM CST
It's also a great nectar plant and will attract butterflies and bees! I doubt there's much downside to this one...just when they die...then I miss them until the next year! Didn't see a lot this year, with the drought and all.
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Dec 4, 2011 2:25 PM CST
Had no idea there was a Monarda that would grow here without supplemental water. Guess I'll be trying it out next Spring. Thanks!
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Name: Stephanie Gonzales
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StephGTx
Dec 16, 2011 7:47 PM CST
That monarda grows all over here too.
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Dec 17, 2011 11:18 AM CST
Around here we might be having a good display of spring wildflowers next year! With all the recent rain/drizzle, I can see little plants all over. That Monarda, however...those actually come up in spring.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Dec 17, 2011 4:03 PM CST
Jen, that monarda is just as beautiful as any hybrid. Lovey dubby
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 17, 2011 7:06 PM CST
I agree

Wonder where we can get seeds of the wild ones?
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Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Dec 17, 2011 9:24 PM CST
You can get Monarda citridora here.
http://www.seedsource.com/catalog/detail.asp?product_id=1006
wildflowersoftexas.com
texasnatureonline.com


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 18, 2011 8:54 AM CST
Wooooooo Hooooooooooo! Hurray! Another beauty to add to my wildflower meadow when the time comes.

Thanks Jay! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Jenn Capestany
Trenton, TX (Zone 8a)
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Jenn
Dec 18, 2011 9:41 PM CST
I don't see much in the way of blossoms until very late spring and the summer months. They show up in my area right before the Indian blanket and sunflowers come sweeping through. These came up this past season in spite of the crippling drought that we had here, so they must be incredibly xeric. I'll have to figure out how to collect seed from them. I love the alternating white and purple color.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Dec 19, 2011 5:55 AM CST
I agree Thumbs up
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Dec 19, 2011 9:11 PM CST
After the blooms look kind of dried up, you can cut the stems under the blooms and put them in a paper bag and shake the bag. Then wait a week and shake it again. Should be seeds in the bag. Unfortunately, I didn't collect any this year. 2011 was not the best year for seeds here.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad

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