Plant ID forum: Common Camellia (Camellia japonica 'Professor Charles Sargent')

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Name: Ginger
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gingin
Dec 9, 2011 1:51 PM CST
I got this years ago at Lowes. It was mislabled...thought I was getting a single.









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hementia
Dec 11, 2011 9:55 AM CST
The bud looks like Purple Dawn
Are the edges of the flower a dark purple?
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Name: Ginger
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gingin
Dec 11, 2011 11:01 AM CST
Nope, but I do have a single pretty much the same color with lavender edges. Is there a "generic" listing in the DB for NOID camellias? There was no way I could wade through 21 (I think) pages...started to get a headach Blinking
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JRsbugs
Dec 11, 2011 11:45 AM CST
I found a list of Camellias registered with the ACS, unfortunately they are listed in alphabetical groups but if you feel like going through them you might find it.

http://www.camellias-acs.com/display.aspx?catid=3,136,137

I once had a site where you could select by type, it was on a Camellia society site but I don't recall which. This is an anemone form which is quite distinctive.
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JRsbugs
Dec 11, 2011 12:21 PM CST
Arthur Gayle is a possibility but I can only find the one photo, this site has a lot named alphabetically.

http://www.jimscamellias.co.uk/page3.htm

The description fits but I would like to see a better photo to be sure! The photo seems to show some white on the middle petals.

SCCS, 1981, Camellia Nomenclature, p.20: Dark red. Very large, semi-double to anemone form. Vigorous, bushy, upright growth. Mid-season blooming. Originated by Ray Gentry, Jacksonville, Mississippi, USA.


http://camellia.unipv.it/camelliadb2/dbwin.php?pippo=1116

It's grown in California ..

http://www.kingsrivernursery.com/krn_availability_sept-oct.p...

One of the camellia growers in Florida, a long list!

http://www.camelliaplant.com/prod01.htm

I picked out Grand Marshall as it is a "Medium to large to peony and anemone" but I don't think it quite fits. Yours is more of a semi-double to anemone form I think! I found a good site though!

http://www.lovcam.org/nomenc.php?langue=gb&page=g&id=1267

You can see how difficult this is with so many introductions now.



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gingin
Dec 11, 2011 12:49 PM CST
OMG...I soooo have a headache Sad I love the blooms on mine, but it may have to remain NOID. Will try the lastest links when the advil kicks in. You're the best Janet Group hug
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JRsbugs
Dec 11, 2011 1:09 PM CST
It's a gorgeous Camellia I agree! I have a few, looking through all the photos makes me want more though! I need a few acres and plenty of money. Hilarious!

I've looked through the A, B & C's on the last link, don't forget there's more than one page for each letter.

'Betty Robinson' looks very close but I can't find any reference to it in the US, maybe it's not quite right either.

http://www.jimscamellias.co.uk/page4.htm

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gingin
Dec 11, 2011 1:54 PM CST
I've got the acres but no money Shrug!
I did a google of camellia anemone form...the one site that looked promising showed "basic" search and told me my internet connection was too slow! Grumbling like I didn't already that Blinking not one of the images they showed was a red.
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gingin
Dec 11, 2011 3:02 PM CST
Janet looking at your links there were several that were very close. I went out and cut another bloom. In person I guess you could call the color a dark rosey red rather then RED red. The center almost seems to have lavender tones to it and when pulling it (center) open there are signes that it wants to have a tad of white varigation. So I guess it should remain a beautiful NOID. Thanks for your efforts Lovey dubby
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JRsbugs
Dec 11, 2011 3:48 PM CST
It might be possible to find it Ginger, but that might take a long time! If the centre does open up more post some pics, there are some with white stamens amongst the small petals. If it's found later it can be given a name then moved.
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gingin
Dec 12, 2011 4:55 PM CST
Hey Janet...I dropped an E-mail to one of your links (I think it was rather then one I found on google Blinking ). Anyway it was camelliaplants...got a reply...said they felt it is Professor Charles Sargent...so now I gotta go back and find that one so as to have the proper info to submit to the DB. Will have to wait as the doggies are acting like they are starving. NOT overweight all. Rolling my eyes.
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 5:37 PM CST
I found a description on backyardgardener, it says it's an intense scarlet ..

http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pd_eaee.html

There's a 'Professor Sargent' on this site which is probably the same but it's an intense scarelt too..

http://www.jimscamellias.co.uk/page18.htm

If yours opens up with white bits in the middle I wouldn't mind betting it's one of Nuccio's.

Actually it looks a good match on this site, maybe the rest are not correct!

http://www.lovcam.org/nomenc.php?page=p&langue=gb&debut=40
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 5:40 PM CST
More info!

http://talesfromthelaboratory.typepad.com/tales_from_the_mic...

http://yardflower.com/?tag=camellia-japonica-professor-sarge...

Name: Ginger
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gingin
Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM CST
Well I feel good that my camellia is Professor Charles Sargent. The pics in the last two links look spot on...thinking "in person" rather then based just on my pic. He has been submitted to the DB. Thanks again Janet for your help Lovey dubby When it comes to an ID you are as tenacious as my red nose pit with her BIG ball Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Group hug
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM CST
Team work Ginger! Thumbs up

I guess if we had gone through the alphabet on that site we would have found it but getting a nursery to give a name enabled us to confirm it!

Red nosed pit? BIG ball? Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Ginger
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gingin
Dec 13, 2011 11:15 AM CST
Janet you have mail...sent pics so as not to get off track here Angel
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