Plant ID forum: Philodendron for ID please

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Dec 12, 2011 7:45 AM CST
This architectural beauty I met in the Botanical Garden of Rio de Janeiro, it had no name tag..

Thank you! Smiling

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 8:06 AM CST
Philodendron giganteum looks a good bet Myriam!

http://palmvrienden.net/junglegarden/hardy/philodendron-giga...
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 8:17 AM CST
Before we get too excited lets list all the Philodendron in Brazil. P. giganteum is a climber although it can be grown in a pot, looking closely at some pics showing the base, I'm not sure this is a cimber.


Araceae Philodendron acreanum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron acutatum Schott
Araceae Philodendron adamantinum Mart. ex Schott
Araceae Philodendron aemulum Schott
Araceae Philodendron alternans Schott
Araceae Philodendron altomacaense Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron angustialatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron angustisectum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron appendiculatum Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron applanatum G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron asplundii Croat & M.L.Soares
Araceae Philodendron bahiense Engl.
Araceae Philodendron barrosoanum G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron bertae K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron billietiae Croat
Araceae Philodendron bipennifolium Schott
Araceae Philodendron bipinnatifidum Schott
Araceae Philodendron biribiriense Sakur. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron blanchetianum Schott
Araceae Philodendron brandtianum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron brasiliense Engl.
Araceae Philodendron brevispathum Schott
Araceae Philodendron burle-marxii G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron callosum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron callosum K.Krause subsp. callosum
Araceae Philodendron callosum subsp. ptarianum (Steyerm.) G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron campii Croat
Araceae Philodendron camposportoanum G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron cardosoi E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron carinatum E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron cataniapoense G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron cipoense Sakur. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron colombianum R.E.Schult.
Araceae Philodendron corcovadense Kunth
Araceae Philodendron cordatum Kunth ex Schott
Araceae Philodendron crassinervium Lindl.
Araceae Philodendron crassum Rendle
Araceae Philodendron cuneatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron curvilobum Schott
Araceae Philodendron dardanianum Mayo
Araceae Philodendron deflexum Poepp. ex Schott
Araceae Philodendron deltoideum Poepp.
Araceae Philodendron distantilobum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron divaricatum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron duckei Croat & Grayum
Araceae Philodendron dunstervilleorum G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron dyscarpium R.E.Schult.
Araceae Philodendron ecordatum Schott
Araceae Philodendron edmundoi G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron elaphoglossoides Schott
Araceae Philodendron ernestii Engl.
Araceae Philodendron exile G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron eximium Schott
Araceae Philodendron fibrillosum Poepp.
Araceae Philodendron flumineum E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron fragile Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron fragrantissimum (Hook.) G.Don
Araceae Philodendron giganteum Schott
Araceae Philodendron glaziovii Hook.f.
Araceae Philodendron goeldii G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron grazielae G.S.Bunting

Araceae Philodendron guianense Croat & Grayum
Araceae Philodendron guttiferum Kunth
Araceae Philodendron hastatum K.Koch & Sello
Araceae Philodendron hatschbachii Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron hederaceum (Jacq.) Schott
Araceae Philodendron hederaceum (Jacq.) Schott var. hederaceum
Araceae Philodendron herthae K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron heterophyllum Poepp.
Araceae Philodendron hopkinsianum M.L.Soares & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron humile E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron hylaeae G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron imbe Schott ex Endl.
Araceae Philodendron inaequilaterum Liebm.
Araceae Philodendron inops Schott
Araceae Philodendron insigne Schott
Araceae Philodendron karstenianum Schott
Araceae Philodendron kautskyi G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron leal-costae Mayo & G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron lechlerianum Schott
Araceae Philodendron leucanthum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron linguifolium Schott
Araceae Philodendron linnaei Kunth
Araceae Philodendron linnaei Kunth var. linnaei
Araceae Philodendron loefgrenii Engl.
Araceae Philodendron longilaminatum Schott
Araceae Philodendron longistilum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron lundii
Araceae Philodendron macropodum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron maculatum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron martianum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron maximum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron mayoi E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron megalophyllum Schott
Araceae Philodendron melinonii Brongn. ex Regel
Araceae Philodendron micranthum Poepp. ex Schott
Araceae Philodendron millerianum Nadruz & Sakur.
Araceae Philodendron minarum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron missionum (Hauman) Hauman
Araceae Philodendron muricatum Willd. ex Schott
Araceae Philodendron myrmecophilum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron nullinervium E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron obliquifolium Engl.
Araceae Philodendron oblongum (Vell.) Kunth
Araceae Philodendron ochrostemon Schott
Araceae Philodendron ornatum Schott
Araceae Philodendron pachyphyllum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron paludicola E.G.Gonç. & Salviani
Araceae Philodendron panduriforme (Kunth) Kunth
Araceae Philodendron panduriforme (Kunth) Kunth var. panduriforme

Araceae Philodendron panduriforme (Kunth) Kunth var. panduriforme
Araceae Philodendron paucinervium Croat
Araceae Philodendron paxianum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron pedatum (Hook.) Kunth
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting var. phlebodes
Araceae Philodendron pinnatifidum (Willd.) Schott
Araceae Philodendron pinnatilobum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron placidum Schott
Araceae Philodendron platypodum Gleason
Araceae Philodendron propinquum Schott
Araceae Philodendron pteropus Mart. ex Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchellum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchrum G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron quinquelobum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron recurvifolium Schott
Araceae Philodendron renauxii Reitz
Araceae Philodendron revillanum Croat
Araceae Philodendron rhizomatosum Sakur. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause var. roraimae
Araceae Philodendron roseocataphyllum Croat & M.M.Mora
Araceae Philodendron roseopetiolatum Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron rotundatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron rudgeanum Schott
Araceae Philodendron saxicola K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron simonianum Sakur.
Araceae Philodendron solimoesense A.C.Sm.
Araceae Philodendron sonderianum Schott

Araceae Philodendron panduriforme (Kunth) Kunth var. panduriforme
Araceae Philodendron paucinervium Croat
Araceae Philodendron paxianum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron pedatum (Hook.) Kunth
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting var. phlebodes
Araceae Philodendron pinnatifidum (Willd.) Schott
Araceae Philodendron pinnatilobum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron placidum Schott
Araceae Philodendron platypodum Gleason
Araceae Philodendron propinquum Schott
Araceae Philodendron pteropus Mart. ex Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchellum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchrum G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron quinquelobum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron recurvifolium Schott
Araceae Philodendron renauxii Reitz
Araceae Philodendron revillanum Croat
Araceae Philodendron rhizomatosum Sakur. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause var. roraimae
Araceae Philodendron roseocataphyllum Croat & M.M.Mora
Araceae Philodendron roseopetiolatum Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron rotundatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron rudgeanum Schott
Araceae Philodendron saxicola K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron simonianum Sakur.
Araceae Philodendron solimoesense A.C.Sm.
Araceae Philodendron sonderianum Schott

Araceae Philodendron panduriforme (Kunth) Kunth var. panduriforme
Araceae Philodendron paucinervium Croat
Araceae Philodendron paxianum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron pedatum (Hook.) Kunth
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron phlebodes G.S.Bunting var. phlebodes
Araceae Philodendron pinnatifidum (Willd.) Schott
Araceae Philodendron pinnatilobum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron placidum Schott
Araceae Philodendron platypodum Gleason
Araceae Philodendron propinquum Schott
Araceae Philodendron pteropus Mart. ex Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchellum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron pulchrum G.M.Barroso
Araceae Philodendron quinquelobum K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron recurvifolium Schott
Araceae Philodendron renauxii Reitz
Araceae Philodendron revillanum Croat
Araceae Philodendron rhizomatosum Sakur. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron roraimae K.Krause var. roraimae
Araceae Philodendron roseocataphyllum Croat & M.M.Mora
Araceae Philodendron roseopetiolatum Nadruz & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron rotundatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron rudgeanum Schott
Araceae Philodendron saxicola K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron simonianum Sakur.
Araceae Philodendron solimoesense A.C.Sm.
Araceae Philodendron sonderianum Schott

Araceae Philodendron speciosum Schott ex Endl.
Araceae Philodendron sphalerum Schott
Araceae Philodendron spiritus-sancti G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron splitgerberi Schott
Araceae Philodendron squamiferum Poepp.
Araceae Philodendron stenolobum E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron steyermarkii G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron surinamense (Miq.) Engl.
Araceae Philodendron tatei K.Krause
Araceae Philodendron tatei K.Krause subsp. tatei
Araceae Philodendron tenuispadix E.G.Gonç.
Araceae Philodendron tortum M.L.Soares & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron toshibai M.L.Soares & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron traunii Engl.
Araceae Philodendron tripartitum (Jacq.) Schott
Araceae Philodendron tweedieanum Schott
Araceae Philodendron uleanum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron uliginosum Mayo
Araceae Philodendron undulatum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron vargealtense Sakur.
Araceae Philodendron venezuelense G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron venustifoliatum E.G.Gonç. & Mayo
Araceae Philodendron venustum G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron wadedavisii Croat
Araceae Philodendron williamsii Hook.f.
Araceae Philodendron wittianum Engl.
Araceae Philodendron wullschlaegelii Schott
Araceae Philodendron wurdackii G.S.Bunting
Araceae Philodendron xanadu Croat et al.


I don't know if that can be narrowed by area!
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Dec 12, 2011 8:34 AM CST
I think it could a climber Janet, in the picture I see a stem coming out from the right side with leaves all the way on the edge of the picture that shows it being the same plant (I think), but that could also be an offset..strangely there is also one single leaf that looks like P.monstera
Not sure though if Philodendron giganteum would be the one, the leaf edges on mine are wavy..

Eeeeeek, so many, siiiiiiigh.. Blinking but this one even may not be Brazilian as it was in the botanical garden, so could also be from other tropical countries..
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 8:43 AM CST
I found a wiki link with lots of plants from tropical America, it might be useful for others I'm sure you have! Hilarious!

http://zookeepersjournal.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tropical_A...

I wonder if it's another plant in Araceae, I found a lot of pics of Anthurium which might be useful too! Right at the bottom..

http://www.aroid.org/gallery/nunez/

There's lots of pics showing P. giganteum with wavy leaves.. yes I noticed the cut leaf too but wasn't sure if it was torn.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Philodendron+giganteum&um=1...

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 8:49 AM CST
I see the plant to the right looks to have a wandering root coming from the main plant, some aroids do that, Colocasia does it, the one I have I think is Black Stem sends out a sort of stem from underground which would root to make another plant if it had chance. It could be a Colocasia or something similar.
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Dec 12, 2011 12:18 PM CST
It could be a Colocasia too Janet, thank you for the links, lots of useful pictures on the first one, I have looked at all the wavy rimmed P.giganteum but somehow it still doesn't feel right.. Yes, the wandering root coming from the main plant was what I meant with 'a stem coming out from the right side' I couldn't word it correctly! Hilarious!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Dec 12, 2011 1:13 PM CST
Those spikes coming from the fibrous base look like the start of spathes, look at Xanthosoma undipes ..

http://bdei2.cs.umb.edu:8080/efg2/Redirect.jsp?displayFormat...

I can't find any Xanthosoma pics with leave like this, I wonder if Philodendron has the same type of spathe? The answer is probably!

http://aroidiaresearch.org/pgiantp.htm

I decided to check out Philodendron undulatum because of the 'undulating' leaves.. hmmm.. close!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Philodendron+undulatum&um=1...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/briansbotanicals/sets/721576037...
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Dec 12, 2011 3:05 PM CST
Philodendron undulatum does look close! Smiling
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Dec 12, 2011 6:36 PM CST
Myriam: You might want to post your photo over on the Aroid Forum: http://garden.org/forums/view/aroids/

Moderator LariAnn is an Aroid expert and she might very well recognize that beauty in your photo!
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Dec 12, 2011 11:44 PM CST
Thanks Lin for the suggestion I'll do that! Smiling

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