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Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8 (Zone 8a)
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Ridesredmule
Dec 21, 2011 10:51 AM CST
A friend sent me this, I still can't believe of the of the minis..

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This is in a tiny porcelin swan. May we start a link for mini semps and sedums.
Just to let me know what stays small.
I still can't believe the beauty of this tiny swan....Thank you
Name: tabby
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tabby
Dec 21, 2011 11:47 AM CST
My smallest semp is probably Sempervivum montanum var. minumum. The rosettes are quite tiny - smaller than my rollers, but it does grow a lot of offsets so needs room for that.

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Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8 (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Charley's Mom.
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Ridesredmule
Dec 21, 2011 12:45 PM CST
Pretty Tabby...
Name: tabby
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tabby
Dec 21, 2011 12:57 PM CST
Can you name the plants that are in the swan?
Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8 (Zone 8a)
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Ridesredmule
Dec 21, 2011 1:18 PM CST
I got it in a Christmas swap. I am sure they are sedums. I'll have to ask the lady to see what they are.

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twitcher
Dec 21, 2011 2:01 PM CST
I started a thread under the old Cubits before ATP got going. Lynn may know where to find it here. She also has a few that are very tiny as well, one an arachnoidum whose name escapes me at the moment.

Some of the smaller semps (typically about 1/2" in a colony) that I grow are listed below. I also have read about an arach that only gets to about 1/4", but sadly that one seems to be lost from the hobby (at least at the moment). I do not have a name for it and doubt that it would remain that small unless grown in a colony.

S. barbulatum f/'Valle Quazarro'
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'Valle Quarazzo' (hope I spelled it right, always seem to misspell this one) is interesting in that it seems to go through population cycles more drastically than other semps. One year I'll get an explosion of offsets, other years most will die off. Very prolific, but hard to keep looking nice in a container.

S. X barbulatum 'Hookeri', S. barbulatum X Hookeri
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There may be two versions of the 'Hookeri" floating around, as I have two under slightly different names (and from different sources) that look a bit different, even though grow in the "same" area of my collection separated by only a foot or two.

S. arach. 'Linde' (in a colony, stays about 3/4")
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'Linde' is one of the older members of my collection, going back probably about 15 years for me and my first arachnoideum. I have always grown it in a container that keeps the rosettes small. I like how the webbing gets bunched up to make circles around the rosette. This does not happen when grown with lots of available space.

S. 'Speciosum' (3/4 - 1" in colony, makes a great clump)
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'Speciosum' makes beautiful clumps. Very well behaved so far. I've only had this one a few years.


The smaller ones need more protection from the sun and more water than the typical semp. I'm always on the lookout for more, even though they are slightly more of a challenge. Check out SMG Succulents species page for more of the tiny ones. Edelweiss Perennials also had a few, as I recall.

Monanthes polyphylla
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Lastly, and slightly out of place, is one of my non-semp favorites. It is from the Canary Islands, is not hardy (frost will kill it very quickly), does not tolerate much water but is very small. It was miss-ID'd when I first saw it as Monanthes brachycarda(spelling?), but is actually Monanthes polyphylla. It is a delight. I never water it, just mist it. It is also very fragile and falls apart when handled. I believe it is a relative of the Semp/Sedum families, but not sure. Killed mine off last year going into winter but found some more this spring and its doing well so far, including even a successful transplant (lost about 25% due to the handling, however)
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Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8 (Zone 8a)
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Ridesredmule
Dec 21, 2011 2:09 PM CST
Possibly
I'm just guessing.
Thanks Twitcher...
Dragon blood china
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM CST

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Here you go Charleen, a thread to post your wonderful container of miniature sedum. That is the sweetest little container of miniatures. Lovey dubby
Charleen, you might also want to post that in the Container Forum and the Miniature Gardening Forum. That photos fits a lot of different topics. Hurray!

And here is the link to the thread for miniature sempervivum. The thread "Meet the Miniature Sempervivum" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum

Twit, awesome photos of your miniature semps. I am particularly fond of your Linde, the webbing is beautiful.
I lost the Monanthes you sent me last year. Crying
I think the arachnoideum you are referring to is S. 'Silver Angel', a very sweet miniature semp. It is doing very well for me.

I'm not at home right now so can't look to see what I have as miniature semps. I'll have to check when I get home. I do know I have some new ones from this year that look to be very small, just can't remember the names.
Name: tabby
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tabby
Dec 22, 2011 3:22 PM CST
I know I've posted this before but S. Speciosum is such a cute miniature:

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S. pixie is pretty small too:

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Dwarf Cobweb is another prolific small semp:

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Dec 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST

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I have speciosum and pixie. Pixie is very prolific and I love it. And I love your photo of Speciosum
I don't have Dwarf Cobweb, where did you get that one from Tabby? Very cute. Lovey dubby
Name: tabby
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tabby
Dec 22, 2011 3:32 PM CST
Dwarf Cobweb is from SMG.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Dec 22, 2011 3:56 PM CST

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Thanks Tabby.

Look at this one they are offering now. Semp. arachnoideum f/Kliene Scheidegg, very tiny.

Think I will have to get this one. Semp. arachnoideum f/Val Miniera, not a mini, but is small with lovely color.

Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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tabby
Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM CST
They don't have S. Dwarf Cobweb listed anymore. Hmmm. They seem to drop and add varieties quite a bit. I don't remember them carrying those cute arachnoideum before.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM CST

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Twit told us awhile back that most of the Semp nurseries change from year to year what they are making available. That way we find new plants to buy. Hurray!

I can see it's time to start looking through what the different nurseries are going to be offering this coming year.
Perennial Obsession
Edelweiss
SMG
North Hills Nursery
Youngs Garden Center

You can find all of these here, each has a thread. http://garden.org/forums/view/chooks/

Kate, are you going to sell semps online this year?
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Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Dec 24, 2011 8:47 PM CST
I have Semp. arachnoideum f/Val Miniera from SMG. It is fairly small but needs some protection from full sun at least here in Colorado.

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twitcher
Dec 25, 2011 6:07 AM CST
Sandi, How big does it get?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Dec 25, 2011 12:41 PM CST

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Do you have a photo of it Sandi?

I plans don't get changed, I am coming through the Denver area this spring, to see my SIL. Maybe we can meet up somewhere?
Wouldn't it be fun if we could all meet up?
Tabby I know your in the Denver area also.
Anyone else in that area?
Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Dec 27, 2011 12:57 PM CST
Hello Twit, it is maybe an 1.25 inch at the most. I tucked it under the lip of an overhanging rock on the southside of my house. I'll see how it likes it in that location. It is under snow cover at the moment. Unfortunately, I don't have a photo of it. Once some of the snow melts, I may try to take a picture.
Oh Lynn, I would love it if you, Tabby and I could meet up this spring. Tabby and I get together every so often, since I live downtown and she lives in the suburbs. I don't know of anyone else in Colorado. Gramps is several hours away on the western slope.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Dec 27, 2011 6:48 PM CST

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I haven't heard from him in quite awhile. Sure hope he is okay.

Twit and Sandi, thanks for discussing S. arach. f/Val Miniera. I looked it up in the database and it was incorrectly named. All better now. Thumbs up

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