Baja_Costero said:The Russian text at the top of the packet reads Upright Marigold / Fantastic Yellow.

Would fantastic yellow be the cultivar or description?

dave said:You can't make up a cultivar name for the database.

My suggestion is to use the regular species plant for whatever purpose you want. If you're wanting this in your Plant List, you can add it there using whatever name you want.

Maybe, but Baja might of found more information, so I'll hold off. Other members might be able to help us. There has to be an answer somewhere 🤞

Bravo Baja - that brings things closer to solving. Thanks for the translation! I am following this with interest, as it is really a lovely bloom. I'm not seeing that particular name in our database, and it still seems to be missing the actual botanical name, perhaps Tagetes erecta 'Fantastic Yellow' ? I can never navigate the Catalogue of Life, perhaps someone else can do so.

I think fantastic yellow is a description rather than a cultivar name. If it was a cultivar name it should be in single quotes to comply with the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants (ICNCP). The Catalog of Life does not list cultivars.

What this looks like is what are sometimes called "Mari-Mums", or chrysanthemum-flowered African marigolds, see:

http://www.omaha.com/living/ma...

Regarding the 4 words I translated earlier, three are actually in the plural (#1,2,4) (the ending determines this) which means the yellow and upright qualities apply to the marigolds. The third word is singular and could also be translated as Fantasy. That is the only possible variety name in there and my intuition is that it really is not, it's just a word tossed in there to sell seeds. Like "Fantastic Yellow!" might get you to buy a color of paint or something. Basically a way to hype the product.



You can translate the rest using this online tool and the Cyrillic characters below it (or a Cyrillic keyboard, if you prefer).

http://www.lexilogos.com/engli...

which is actually significantly better than copying and pasting the letters one at a time.

Keith, I've encountered problems like this with nursery plants. Some people just make up names to sell the plants. This is commonly done on Ebay. They make up things and call them rare, etc. Put it in our database as Tagetes erecta. That is as close as we can come.

African Marigold (Tagetes erecta)

sooby said:I think fantastic yellow is a description rather than a cultivar name. If it was a cultivar name it should be in single quotes to comply with the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants (ICNCP). The Catalog of Life does not list cultivars.

What this looks like is what are sometimes called "Mari-Mums", or chrysanthemum-flowered African marigolds, see:

http://www.omaha.com/living/ma...

@sooby
That does look like them! Is Mari mum marigolds in our database?

This is a quote from that article.

"Mari-mums are the large flower marigolds, known botanically as Tagetes erecta, that are reminiscent of chrysanthemums."

Myself, I would consider Mari-mums as an alternate common name. If it is entered as such, a search should find it.

There is no cultivar name listed on the seed packet. The seed packet also does not say anything corresponding to "Chrysanthemum Shape," so I don't know why that was chosen by Keith as the cultivar name. Transliterated, the name of the plant on the package is "Barkhattsy pryamostoyachiye (Tagetes erecta) Fantastika (Fantastic) zheltyye (yellow)." Fantastika cannot mean fantasy. That would be Fantaziya. Fantastika is a noun and has no one-word English equivalent. It means "something fantastic." The fact that it's initial capped probably means that it's the name of a seed mix. It's a singular noun, followed by "zheltyye," a plural adjective, so, as Baja pointed out, "yellow" refers to the "Tagetes erecta" portion of the name and cannot be part of the name of the seed mix.

Suttons (UK) http://www.suttons.co.uk/Garde... and OMC Seeds (Poland) http://www.omcseeds.com/tagete... offer the Tagetes erecta Fantastic mix (yellow, orange, and cream). They don't enclose Fantastic in single quotes, so it's not an officially registered name. We do have other seed mixes listed in our database as cultivar names, however, so I think it wouldn't go against our traditions to list this one as Tagetes erecta 'Fantastic Mix.'

Thanks for deciphering both sides of this Zuzu. @keithp2012 here's Marigold (Tagetes erecta 'Fantastic Mix')