Trying to sort out a situation here with the agaves... would appreciate input from
@mcvansoest and anyone else who might be able to help. It has to do with the inclusion of Agave leopoldii as a synonym for Agave parryi on this page.
Parry's Agave (Agave parryi)
I'm wondering if this Agave leopoldii is related to the plant I know as Agave x leopoldii (a hybrid between two kinds of filifera, as the species is currently defined), which is in a different subgenus from parryi (which makes branched inflorescences instead of spicate ones), and thus rather distinct. Agave xleopoldii would actually best be described as A. filifera, in the broad sense, if you had to choose.
The CoL appears to be the basis for the inclusion of leopoldii as a synonym for parryi in the database.
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
There was a thread back in 2015 where the x leopoldii plant was created, but that entry seems to have been since deleted (in favor of the CoL-approved one?).
The thread "Plant database" in
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And here are a couple of reputable sources on the identity of the hybrid A. x leopoldii.
https://www.smgrowers.com/prod...
http://plantdelights.com/Catal...
Is there a different Agave leopoldii which was once a species?
Otherwise I would like to propose the creation of an entry for Agave xleopoldii. Howard Gentry says the two parents of A. xleopoldii (which he calls A. filifera and A. schidigera) intergrade in nature so this definitely could be a naturally occurring hybrid. It sounds that way in the PDN description which refers to the parent of the version they sell as "a plant Gary [Hammer] had discovered in Mexico".
For the record, I am also not happy with the way Agave parryi truncata continues to be included as a synonym for Agave parryi subsp. parryi.
Artichoke Agave (Agave parryi var. truncata)
The type for A. parryi (1874) comes from northern AZ, and truncata comes from the other end of the species' range (its southeastern tip in Mexico, near the Zacatecas-Durango border). There may be some taxonomical reason why Agave parryi truncata is not its own subspecies instead of a variety (this I would defer to experts) but it is geographically and morphologically distinct from the type, as well as the other 2 varieties described in Gentry's landmark book whose type is from AZ (that is to say, all but truncata). In my non-expert opinion it seems like Agave parryi truncata should be a variety of parryi distinct from subsp. parryi.
To see the subspecies and varieties as they currently exist in the database, look here.
https://garden.org/search/inde...
I offer my non-expert opinion not having seen the original publications where the varieties and subspecies were separated. It just seems like the most distinctly different and geographically separate plant in the species would not be the one to use for this name. Experts please correct if I have misunderstood.
The most recent semi-inclusive book on agaves (Greg Starr) describes Agave parryi var. parryi (would this be equivalent to the subspecies as it has been defined above?) as a resident of AZ, NM, and northwestern Mexico and separates Agave parryi var. truncata (which is different in various ways including its form and origin). I would propose the creation of a new, separate entry for Agave parryi var. truncata, where most of the pictures from the current location would be moved, and the removal of truncata as a synonym for the other plant.
Insight on either matter?