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chelle
Jan 20, 2012 1:43 PM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
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Hi, Dave.

Question - Which of these should I use? Would I be incorrect in thinking they are one and the same? I have photos to add to this plant, but I don't know the particular cultivar name for it, it just says "White".

Japanese Dogwood (Cornus kousa chinensis)
Korean Dogwood (Cornus kousa var. chinensis)
(Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis)

...and as for the primary common name; isn't this plant actually a Chinese dogwood?
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dave
Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM CST
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The plants you are referencing are:





Chinese Dogwood (Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis)

I'm not sure what the difference(s) between these three plants are and even if they are actually valid as separate plants. Hopefully someone else can help us out on this interesting problem.
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valleylynn
Jan 20, 2012 2:42 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Does this help? http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...
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JRsbugs
Jan 20, 2012 4:10 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Cornus kousa is also an accepted name.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis is accepted.

Cornus kousa var. chinensis is a synonym of Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis

Cornus kousa ..

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc...

There are cultivars, 'Milky Way' ..

http://www.burncoose.co.uk/sit...

Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis (although they have put it as 'var.'. It looks to have pink tips to the petals..

http://www.cambridge2000.com/g...

http://www.crocus.co.uk/plants...

There are cultivars, 'Milky Way' ..

http://www.burncoose.co.uk/sit...

'Gold Star' ..

http://www.burncoose.co.uk/sit...

'Eddie's White Wonder'

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc...

'White Fountain' ..

http://www.trees-online.co.uk/...

Are you sure it's Cornus kousa Chelle? There's Cornus florida 'Cloud Nine' ..

http://www.hort.net/gallery/vi...

Cornus capitata ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...
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JRsbugs
Jan 20, 2012 4:17 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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I've submitted proposals to delete both Cornus kousa chinensis and Cornus kousa var. chinensis.
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valleylynn
Jan 20, 2012 4:46 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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chelle
Jan 20, 2012 6:12 PM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Thanks! I think we're of like minds on this one. Smiling

Here's the actual tag on the one I'm trying to place....just for reference, I guess.
Thumb of 2012-01-21/chelle/ebce08
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valleylynn
Jan 20, 2012 6:25 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Great info on the tag Chelle. Thumbs up
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JRsbugs
Jan 20, 2012 6:38 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Great! They just missed out the subsp.

You have Cornus kousa subsp. chinensis
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valleylynn
Jan 20, 2012 6:57 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Great job Janet. Thumbs up
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| @valleylynn | Post #203300 (10)
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JRsbugs
Jan 20, 2012 7:30 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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I hope after all that the plant matches the lable! Hilarious!
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valleylynn
Jan 20, 2012 7:52 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Rolling on the floor laughing
Sometimes we just can't tell for sure until it blooms.
But I think this one is figured out. Thumbs up
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chelle
Jan 20, 2012 8:14 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
I tip my hat to you.

Wonderful!

I really appreciate the help!

I'll add it to the DB ASAP. Hurray!
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