I was going to enter a succulent that I believe is a tri-color luciae, but the database is showing thyrsiflora. There has been some mislabeling of these plants in California that has since been corrected. I have been waiting since early December for the plant to bloom so I could be sure. It has no fragrance and is definitely urn shaped. I think luciae is correct, but I'll wait to see what others say. Not trying to open a can of worms!

I found this information to back up what I think is the correct name: http://www.smgrowers.com/info/...
I also posted it on a cactus and succulent site and they agreed it was luciae.
Bloom



Entire plant in May/2011

Aren't they both synonyms?

According to MOBOT's Tropicos, K. thyrsiflora is a synonym for Kalanchoe tetraphylla.

The same source says that Kalanchoe luciae is a synonym and should be replaced by Kalanchoe luciae subsp. luciae.

San Marcos Growers says your cultivar is a K. luciae.

Kalanchoe luciae 'Fantastic' PPAF (Variegated Paddle Plant) - This exciting new succulent, with its collage of foliage colors, is a interesting and beautiful sight. Like Kalanchoe luciae, the, species it is derived from, this plant grows...

Accordingly, I have edited the plant in question to be Kalanchoe luciae subsp. luciae 'Fantastic' with an appropriate synonym field.

hmmmmm, not sure about this. Checking correct plant names is what I do at my work and we have established that this particular plant should be called K. thyrsiflora 'Fantastic'. There are a lot of changes in plant names afoot though....

Well, you know way more than I do about this, and I'll be glad to go along with what you all decide.

Here is the tropicos entry that I was referencing:

http://www.tropicos.org/Name/8...

How did ya'll determine that? Did you use The Plant List some way?

I found the tropicos entry via the plant list.

I used The Plant List as well so just curious.

I think both Kalanchoe luciae ssp. luciae and K. thyrsiflora are accepted names. (on Kew it is Kalanchoe luciae!)

I found a key on Kew..

http://apps.kew.org/efloras/ke...

K. luciae ssp. luciae is on the Flora of Zimbabwe but the date is 2005..

http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw...

Kalanchoe luciae subsp. luciae on Tropicos doesn't have a different accepted name but has synonyms ..

http://www.tropicos.org/Name/8...

Kalanchoe thyrsiflora is mentioned on Kew as a synonym of Kalanchoe luciae, Kalanchoe luciae ssp luciae is also said to be a synonym, but that doesn't mean Kalanchoe thyrsiflora is not also an accepted species, it just means that at some time one was thought to be the other.

http://apps.kew.org/efloras/na...

Kalanchoe thyrsiflora on Kew.. read the notes.

http://apps.kew.org/efloras/na...

So what are we using as our "final answer"?

Sandi, are you sure yours is the cultivar "Fantastic"? If so, smgrowers say it was derived from Kalanchoe luciae.

Your plant doesn't look to have so much red colouring but I know that can vary according to conditions. If it is a straight species, and you can follow the key you might be able to decide which it is.

To the best of my knowledge it is, and was labeled Fantastic. I won it as a door prize at a local nursery, The Great Outdoors, when they invited our garden club to a private evening at the nursery in the fall of 2010. They were very excited about a new plant they had seen at the 2010 Tropical Plant Industry Exhibition they had attended. It had won as the Favorite New Foliage Plant. They had ordered some and offered one as a door prize. It was “Fantastic,” and I won it.

I took a pic of it in May, 2011 when it first came out of the hoop house. I mistakenly thought that was when I had received it, but I had had it about 6 months then. It is now in the hoop house and has turned pale from being inside. This is the one with the bloom that I had posted. I have another one that is similar, but not a tri-color, that is redder from being near the outside wall of hoop house. It gets the morning sun. It was the one I posted on the Plant ID.

I appreciate your help Janet, as always. I will just hold off posting my photos for the time being.

http://www.smgrowers.com/info/...
If the plant in pic 3 is Kalanchoe luciae, then according to link it should have yellow flowers. What is above mine?

Regards,
Arif.

Just an FYI regarding Flapjacks (Kalanchoe luciae 'Fantastic')
Given the changes to accepted taxon names per the COL, I changed the species of this entry back to K. thyrsiflora as per the patent. See The thread "Kalanchoe luciae" in Plant Database forum