Sedum forum: Sedums for zone 3a???

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Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 19, 2012 7:55 PM CST
I have a problem area that is mostly rock and on top of that our resident deer herd browse around town on a regular basis. I would like something that doesn't take a lot of fussing with. Would any of the Sedums work in such a hostile environment. I have not grown them before.

I forgot to say the area is sunny all afternoon.

Margaret
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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Mar 20, 2012 4:29 AM CST

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Many of the low growing sedum are hardy to zone 3 and sound like a perfect solution to your problem. A few examples are 'Angelina', 'Weihenstephaner Gold', 'John Creech', and 'Fireglow'. You could also tuck sempervivum into areas between the rocks for a little variety.
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Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Mar 20, 2012 9:08 AM CST
Thanks Chris. I tip my hat to you. Those sound great, just the sort of thing I am looking for, low growing and easy care. Do they need to be fertilized and if so what do you recommend.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Mar 20, 2012 9:18 AM CST

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No, actually they thrive in poor soil. Thumbs up Just give them good drainage and they're happy.
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Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 20, 2012 9:23 AM CST
That's even better!! Thumbs up They will have good drainage as the area is sloped. There used to be a big Jack pine tree that hid the rocky slope, it got diseased and we had to cut it down and now the area looks awful. Thumbs down
Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Mar 20, 2012 10:09 AM CST

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These sedum can be quite colorful, and they also get flowers, so it should look real pretty!
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Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Mar 20, 2012 10:48 AM CST
The flowers will be a nice bonus. Hurray!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Mar 22, 2012 3:10 PM CST

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Ooooh. I can just see that slope covered in different kinds of low growing sedum, making it a tapestry of leaf and bloom color throughout the growing season.

Margaret, can you post us a photo of the slope?
Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Mar 22, 2012 3:48 PM CST
This is my problem area, it looks terrible, there used to be a huge old jack pine growing there and it got some kind of disease and it had to be cut down, the photo was taken the day it was cut down, I was heartbroken, I loved the old tree, it gave us privacy from the street and the birds and squirrels ate the seeds from the cones and you couldn't see how messy it looked under the tree. Now I am so sick of looking at the area but had no idea what to do because of all the rock and our harsh growing conditions. Then I had a brain wave Big Grin after seeing some of your lovely plant photos! Whistling
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Can this area be rescued and made to look beautiful??
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Mar 22, 2012 4:27 PM CST

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I am so jealous. You have a natural, ready made area for the most amazing rock garden. Lovey dubby
You could even incorporate some of the taller type sedum. And there are so many other alpine type plants that would live there happily. Hurray!
Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Mar 22, 2012 4:35 PM CST
There is very little soil, and I want something fairly maintenance free. Should I spray the area with roundup before I start planting the area, it's full of grass and weeds? Shrug!
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 22, 2012 5:44 PM CST

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Chris would be a great one to answer this question.

But I would think that might be a great idea. All the grass and weeds would be hard to contend with while getting new plants going.
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goldfinch4
Mar 23, 2012 12:53 AM CST

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Would probably be a good idea to spray with Roundup first. Makes cleaning it up a lot easier. That is a perfect area for a rock garden and it'll be gorgeous! Hurray!

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Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 23, 2012 5:52 PM CST
Thanks Lynn and Chris for your help. I tip my hat to you. Now all I have to do is get busy and decide which ones to buy.

Does anyone grow "Purple Emperor" I just saw a photo of it in Fine Gardening magazine, it looks really colorful. Green Grin!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Mar 23, 2012 6:45 PM CST

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There are a number of people here at ATP that grow Purple Emperor. It is a beauty for sure. Stonecrop (Hylotelephium telephium subsp. telephium 'Purple Emperor')
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 23, 2012 7:39 PM CST
The blooms are so pretty! Thumbs up
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 23, 2012 7:54 PM CST

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And bonus, amazing leaf color. Lovey dubby
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 23, 2012 9:40 PM CST
I agree Lovey dubby
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tabby
Mar 27, 2012 8:14 AM CST
After you've sprayed with roundup and have the area planted, I would use pre-emergent on it to help keep the weeds out. I've been using it for years on some of my sedum and semp beds with pretty good results.

The deciduous sedums, which Purple Emperor is, are especially hardy since they go dormant in the winter.

I don't know exactly how hardy sedum alba is, but mine actually grew this winter when it was below freezing, so I'm thinking that one might be a good one to try. I'll try and take a picture of it.
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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mcash70
Mar 27, 2012 9:22 AM CST
Thanks Tabby, sounds good, I think it will be very pretty once it's completed.

I am still really worried about the deer eating them, Saturday evening the herd was out browsing, DH counted 11 of them.
There's 7 right across the street from our house and one directly under the living room window looking up at me.
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