Plant Database forum: Hylotelephium telephium vs. Sedum telephium

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 28, 2012 5:23 PM CST

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Depending on where you look one or the other of the subject are the currently accepted names. We have DB duplication so how should we proceed until this is resolved?

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=telephium&submit=...
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=red+cauli

Hylotelephium telephium:
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/details/spec...

Sedum telephium:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2488984 (Kew under review)
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/8901690?tab=acceptednames

edit: genetic analysis?
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/8901318?projectid=9
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 28, 2012 5:50 PM CST
Hi Evan. I have been trying to get caught up with this duplication problem in the sedum. I just finished with the sempervivum.

At this point we have decided to keep them as sedum with a synonym of the name change. Some of them have been done, but there are many yet to go.

Here is one that has been done. Sedum (Hylotelephium pluricaule 'Isle of Sakhalin')

It became to confusing for many people and they are still hashing out the new names, so we decided to stay with sedum for now. However, it is important to add the new name as a synonym so no matter how the search is made it will come up.

Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 28, 2012 8:00 PM CST

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Thanks Lynn.
Evan
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Mar 28, 2012 9:44 PM CST
I've been working on it since we posted earlier today. Thanks for the heads up Evan. I had no idea it was that bad. Sad
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Mar 29, 2012 5:35 PM CST
All of the Hylotelephium are completed.
Sorry, I forgot to put the link. http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/genus/Telephium/

However I have a problem with these two plants, which are listed as Telephium.
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2516905
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Telephium_imperat...

I find no reference anywhere that it is classified as a Sedum.
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 29, 2012 7:45 PM CST

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I'm sorry if I mislead you Lynn. I searched telephium to bring up both Sedum telephium and Hylotelephium telephium for comparison to find duplicates. Genus Telephium is not a Sedum.

So all Hylotelephium species are now in genus Sedum for our purposes? Good to know.
Evan
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 29, 2012 8:54 PM CST
Yes they are Evan, thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I was a bit confused over the Genus Telephium, I was confusing it with the species telephium. Sticking tongue out

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