Plant ID forum: Which Siberian Iris?

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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Mar 28, 2012 6:28 PM CST

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Anybody know which variety this siberian iris is?

(Assuming it is a siberian iris, of course) Sticking tongue out

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Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Mar 29, 2012 9:55 AM CST
Wellll, it's not a siberian. Is it a wild iris that seeded in, or one you puchased?
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dave
Mar 29, 2012 10:05 AM CST

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It didn't come in from seeds. It arrived in my garden as a plant from either a trade or a purchase that Trish made. I'm sorry to say I don't know which is the case.
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PollyK
Mar 29, 2012 10:24 AM CST
I would guess it's versicolor from the width of the leaves, but I'm really not sure. Maybe someone else can help. I know the width of the leaves are unusual. Most beardless iris have more narrow leaves.
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dave
Mar 29, 2012 10:26 AM CST

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Thanks Polly Smiling
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PollyK
Mar 29, 2012 10:44 AM CST
Sure, sorry I couldn't help more.
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dave
Mar 29, 2012 11:04 AM CST

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I do think you're right about it being a I. versicolor.
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PollyK
Mar 29, 2012 11:17 AM CST
I think so too, but there are also some Louisiana irises that look like it. Most versicolors have purple based foliage, if you want to check that. Way at the bottom.
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JRsbugs
Mar 29, 2012 3:13 PM CST
It doesn't look like versicolor to me, more like a form of Iris laevigata.

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselector/plant?plantid=1045

http://www.bethchatto.co.uk/plant%20portraits%20i/iris%20lae...

http://www.hillkeep.ca/bulbs%20iris.htm

http://www.signa.org/index.pl?Iris-laevigata
Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Mar 29, 2012 7:01 PM CST
Good eye, Janet. It could very well be. Normally laevigata does not have quite that wide leaves, but it could be a cultivar.
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dave
Mar 29, 2012 7:22 PM CST

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I'll ask Trish and see if she ever obtained a laevigata (all the irises we have came through her doings)
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JRsbugs
Mar 30, 2012 5:07 AM CST
Polly. look at the leaves on the Beth Chatto site, they are quite broad. If they can't get it right nobody can.

http://www.bethchatto.co.uk/plant%20portraits%20i/iris%20lae...

On the Hillkeep site it says it's "Native to Russia, China, Korea and Japan" so I would expect variation.
Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Mar 30, 2012 5:28 PM CST
Right you are, Janet. Once again, a good eye, you've got there. I think you've found your iris, Dave!

If it happens you can't ID one from the ones Trish got from me, I kept a list.
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irisloverdee
Mar 31, 2012 6:48 PM CST
I will look on all my species iris later tonight or tomorrow ok Trish and Dave

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
May 25, 2012 3:44 PM CST

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I've looked everywhere I can think of and other than the RHS entry can find no Iris laevigata with both the white flash and the yellow signal. I notice the RHS image is from [url=www.gardenworldimages.com]www.gardenworldimages.com[/url], do you think it could be wrong?
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JRsbugs
May 25, 2012 6:08 PM CST
The description on hillkeep says:

[quote]Iris laevigata F. E. L. von Fischer. Rabbit-ear iris. Yanzihua (China). Kakitsubata (Japan). Subgenus Limniris, Section Limniris, Series Laevigatae. Flowers that are blue to mauve to white, often with white or yellow central markings, bloom in May-July, depending on altitude. This is an elegant and reliable plant for shorelines and shallow ponds. Native to Russia, China, Korea and Japan. Our plants are from wild and garden seed from both China and Japan.

I would hope the RHS knew the image contributor had it correctly named, but as always you can never be sure.

Name: Evan
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eclayne
May 25, 2012 6:26 PM CST

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Hi Janet, I noticed that description on efloras Flora of China but thought it might be from the alba or other forms with white on the falls and standards like f. colchesterensis.
Evan

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