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Oct 17, 2018 11:15 AM CST
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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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These daffs were blind last year so I am digging them up to thin them out. Do I separate the daughter bulbs from the main bulb? I tend to crowd my daffs when I plant them, what would be good spacing between them?

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Oct 17, 2018 8:13 PM CST
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Most divisions have a recommended density of 4 to 5 per square foot. Large cup (Div 2) at 3 to 4/sq ft.
I often space mine 2 or 3 inches apart due to lack of space.
I usually plant multi headed ones as they are figuring they'll naturally split when the daughters are mature enough.
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Oct 18, 2018 12:49 PM CST
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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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Thank you Jack, that's exactly what I needed to know. Thumbs up
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Oct 18, 2018 2:32 PM CST

Good advice from Jack. With respect to the tiny bulblets, I would tend to think about breaking off same. They are going to take a couple of years at least to amount to anything, they will steal nutrition from the mother plant, and in the interim really interfere with your daffodil bed planning, in that you don't really know of all the shoots - which will bloom. If I get crazy enough to start harvesting Daffodil bulblets, ( no degredation to you) and quite often I attain that mental condition, I pot the bulblets up in small pots and watch their progress. You also are up against the fact that daffodils and tulips usually need a dormancy-stage, brought on by freezing temperatures here in Canada, and Holland for that matter, and half of North America. I have never had the pleasure of being to Alabama, and as such, it could well be that lot's of people grow daffodils and tulips there! I certainly wish you the best in raising Daffodils, and/or tulips, and I guess my respectfully submitted advice would be to separate the bulblets, and additionally, plant your Daffodils a little more shallow. Usually when they don't bloom, it is because they are buried too deeply, particularly in your zone- ruling out the problem that I have here, in that my soil is way too hard and heavy (incorporate sand into your growing media anytime you can) for Daffodils to easily punch through it! I haven't counted lately, but I have hundreds of both Daffodils and Tulips. Note: Doesn't mean for one second, that I am any more knowledgable on the subject than you or Jack! Keep us posted. Cheers!
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Oct 18, 2018 6:03 PM CST
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Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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Frank your advice about planting shallower in the south is spot on. I was researching today and found a few resources saying the same thing. I have sandy soil but this particular bed does have some clay.

The rest of the clump dug today.
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This is the first dividing I have done on any of my daffs, these were 10 bulbs just 4 yrs ago. What a bang for your buck!

We get down to 20 degrees here during the winter so I do have enough cold for daffs. Tulips forget it. I planted them one year for my husband, foliage the next, out they went.
I have kept a list of daffs that did not make it here, now I'm wondering if I just planted them too deep. D'Oh!
I may pot up several of the daughter bulbs, I definitely have enough to experiment with.
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Oct 18, 2018 6:43 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Kabby, It may just be the variety. Some grow and bloom here in my garden, but only Paperwhites and King Alfred increase. Anything that needs hours of chill is an annual here.
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Oct 18, 2018 11:48 PM CST
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
here we plants all bulbs only in winter, I will start in about 2 weeks. Narcissus and tulips have to pass though the refrigerator for several weeks prior to planting, to break dormancy period. After about march/April leaves are yellow and dead and you have to remove Narcissus bulbs from the ground and keep them in a dry closet. Tulips is a different story., it is too hot for them, therefore after blooming , the bulb has no time to recover and save the energy for the next year, therefore it is rotten in the ground, and you have to buy new bulbs year year. This is what local nurseries says too.

Amaryllis have leaves all year around, grow in summer like crazy. I recently divided several bulbs. There was 1 bulbs that I divided, about 3 cm in diameter that I planted separately in start of August. Now after 2 and half month , I checked it size, and it is 5 cm already. This is a picture about 2 month ago.

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As u can see, 5 big leaves. Now it is 8 strong leaves,a + 1 dies.

Now I planted EUCROSIA BICOLOR as well. I will see how it will survive here.

P.S. All plants growing outside on the balcony, there is no protection from outside weather, no greenhouse as well.
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Oct 19, 2018 8:22 PM CST
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Name: Kabby
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Carol I want so bad to grow Sun Disc daffs, I love the perfectly round flat shape of them. They're jonquilla I should be able to grow them darn it! I may give them another chance later but there are so many more to try.
Ron is the only reason you dig your narcissus is to eventually refridgerate? I guess what I'm saying is could you leave them until time to chill? If they are potted for your balcony I can see wanting to get them out of the way while you have other plants blooming. My new amaryllis should be here soon so I can get them in the ground. Hurray!
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Oct 20, 2018 12:13 AM CST
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
Kabby said:Carol I want so bad to grow Sun Disc daffs, I love the perfectly round flat shape of them. They're jonquilla I should be able to grow them darn it! I may give them another chance later but there are so many more to try.
Ron is the only reason you dig your narcissus is to eventually refridgerate? I guess what I'm saying is could you leave them until time to chill? If they are potted for your balcony I can see wanting to get them out of the way while you have other plants blooming. My new amaryllis should be here soon so I can get them in the ground. Hurray!


@Carol@
It will not be chill enough for them to break dormancy, I need several weeks of constant 40 F, I have maximum several days in a year. Also I want its space in the summer to plant annual summer plants. And last time they gown so much in winter, they left no free space in the pot.
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Oct 20, 2018 11:25 AM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Well you have about the same weather as I do, but I don't try to grow Daffs in pots so Space isn't an issue for me.
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