Interesting! My camellia's are stars too! The only water they've had is dishwater, once in a while, (there are lots of them, so they have to share,) & coffee grounds, and they're blooming like crazy. My salvia's have always done well in drought conditions. The roses I've inherited are also surviving happily on dishwater & coffee grounds. I was interested to hear your thoughts on own root roses - those were my favorites at my old house, but now I'm glad that I inherited hybrid teas. I think that Sue & I bought the same bidens last spring - I love it & have lot of cuttings & rooted them, so I have several plants... Also love fleabane, blanket flower, lavender, catmint... The white albutilon that Sue told me to buy did very well & produced lots of long seed pods, but the frost has been too much for the foliage; hopefully, it will come back next spring.