Nice comments Sue - always great to have more input from others. Good points.
OT - Sue - WRT the Carol Mackie Daphne - I lost TWO of them at the same time. Big specimens - TG I only paid 5 $ a piece late last year from Earl May. I healed in the pots over winter. After Mothers Day, planted them. They leafed out beautifully and looked fine for months. Then they started looking bad. Then worse. Then worser. Then kapoot. BTW Zone 4a is really pushing it for Daphne.