I have made severeal posts at DG referring people to and recommending ATP. So far nothing has been deleted but it may be the Terry and Melody can't keep up with all the people leaving DG and recommening ATP. I am often overly loyal but I, too, had a problem with Terry and when the responses to the latest unannounced changes were met with a "too bad, we're doing what we want" atitude I decided I've had enough. Rudeness and stupidity are a bad combination. None of the problems - some painfully obvious - have been corrected as far as I can tell. When loyalty is taken advantage of, it's time to leave. katie