SSG, I haven't logged in to ATP for a couple weeks but I wanted to comment on what you said about the Sekkan Sugi Cryptomeria growing fast. I planted our two in spring of '10 and they are in the first two pics. The second two pics are from spring of '15 and taken from the exact spots they were taken in '10. The next two are the same plants but farther away for scale. The two have grown to about 14'. Each have grown about 2-3' this season so are even taller than the pics.