Hi Don, I haven't tried either of the variety's you mention, but took a look at them at Victory Seeds. Now I wish I would've ordered those as they're a good deal bigger than the variety I ordered. I bookmarked them for next year! Hopefully I'll have a year of tomato seed starting success under my belt by then. Thanks for mentioning them : )
UPDATE: Just received my seeds in the mail, and the gift seeds sent w/my order were Sleeping Lady and Rosella Purple! How about that?! Now I'm doubly excited to get growing! : )