Thanks, Jim. I can't take credit for the Vuyl/Miltonidium, it was in bud when I bought it. The Ansellia was a pass along several years ago, and is easy and reliable growing in gravel on my porch. I have seen them at shows about 5' tall, but this one stays at about 2'. Unfortunately, it reaches for the sun, so 1 spike goes through the porch railing and the other goes the opposite direction, and it's hard to move for photos. Wish I had your set up so they would grow up, but alas, I don't.