Thank you Neal, Casseta is going on the list for fall ordering. I looked in the B&B catalog for my white mini and they have an heirloom called Snowball. I wish they would tell size of the bloom although the height is right.
Dirt I have zone envy too. You can do delphiniums and lupines!
Sallysmom if Erlicheer was pure white it would match my mini. It has no yellow segments though.
Good night all, tomorrow I must return to the folds of the money making heathen.