Lyn: The ones I got came from Otto and Sons in Fillmore...which is south of Arroyo Grande but still a major haul from Long Beach. It takes about 2 1/2 hours for me to get there from here but it's a superb nursery.
Unfortunately, Otto's doesn't deliver unless you buy from one of their retailers and pay double the price, or more.
These roses were "new" at the time and highly recommended by the staff at Otto's. Had I known how well they'd perform I would have got more for myself as well. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that...
I'll ck. next year to see who has them locally.
Not that I have any more room for more roses !