To Karen,that pic was taken in 2011 ,I dug this and a few others in the end of nov 2009 as we were planning to move in march 2010, packed a bout 24 plants in 3 big tubs 3 tp one 5 year old jap maple we did not move till oct 2010 all the plants spent that year in the tubs in the shade planted them in early nov 2010 tp jm are doing very well.