I do not know the owners personally but I drive by their house once or twice a week. The peonies were so glorious that year that I asked the owner's permission if I could take a few pics of his beautiful peonies. He told me that his wife whom was away at the time planted these peonies 10 years ago and that's how big they got to be then when the pics were taken. The FM was over 4ft wide! What she did was really smart too by inserting a cage support around the center of the bush and let the outer stems grow without support so it looked like a rounded full bush.