That's funny Greg - I just said the opposite - that I think the smooth leafed ones fare the best. The downy ones seemed to soak up the rain more and rot. Ah well - there are some varieties that are "problem children" no matter what. And it seems like they aren't often sold, maybe b/c they are difficult (Jolly Green Giant, Rubikon). I've had good luck keeping some of those potted and under cover, not much space for that at this house - but the hubster just got my greenhouse up!