http://miklanek.tripod.com/MCS...
'Astrid' ... M. KAHL (DE), 1988 ... JOVIBARBA HEUFFELII
'Astrid' ... ANDRÉ SMITS (BE), 1993 ... JOVIBARBA HIRTA
'Astrid' ... ANDRÉ SMITS (BE), 1992 ... SEMPERVIVUM
Sorry about leaving the hirta off J. hirta 'Astrid'.
Sandi please share any info you get from him, I am sure it will benefit us all. Until you brought up the topic I knew nothing about S. 'Griggs Surprise'. It is so much fun learning new things about the semps. Thank you so much for getting us on this topic. : )