Dwain, we could probably give you some ideas as to guesses if you would like. You'll need to measure the blooms, though. Scape height might help a little, too, although scape heights can really vary depending on the garden.
Off the top of my head, I would guess the second one to be 'Autumn Red' but Autumn red is a little more of a UFO (unusual form) than a spider, and what you have looks more like a spider daylily. Hard to say.
